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08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
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200NL River the flush on a paired board.
Villain is a bog standard 20/15/3 TAG that I have never seen get out of line. I really can't put him on any other hand than a slowplayed KK or 55 after the turn action. He took forever before finally calling the turn for what it's worth.
My image is 18/14/3 nitty. When I raise the turn it should be pretty easy to put me on a big draw or set. Am I being a weak tight bitch for wanting to C/F this river? Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $209.80 Hero (BB): $203.00 UTG: $44.65 MP: $192.55 CO: $133.90 BTN: $265.13 Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, SB calls $7.00, Hero calls $6.00 Flop: ($24) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks Turn: ($24) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, BTN calls $50.00, SB folds River: ($138) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $85.00</font>, Hero? 
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#2
08-21-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
CALL! I doubt he's gonna let a third heart come off for free with a set and a raise and re-raise in front of him. Its hard to put him on a hand here that would play the hand like this, other than a flush, and if thats the case then we are only worried about the A high flush. Being that he raised OTB it could be a hand like 7h8h. A 20/15 will raise a hand like that first in OTB.
I SAY CALL!
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#3
08-21-2007, 06:18 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
He isn't calling this turn with any other flushdraw than 87hh, 97hh or T9hh, and I'm not even sure he calls with those. This guy is not a donk. Calling the turn cold with most flushes I beat is very bad. It is very likely I have a set here and he knows it. If I don't have a set I have a hand like the one I have.
Since I could be CR'ing river with a boat, would he even valuebet a small flush if he somehow got there? Please remember that opponent in this hand is not an idiot, and he will try to put me on a hand before playing turn river. What hands would you put me on in villains shoes? I just feel this is 55 sooooooooooo often, and KK some of the time.
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#4
08-21-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
Ugh. I think this is a fold, and I pay people off all the time. It's button v blinds, but the overcall is massive, and given your read will be a draw so rarely. What other hands do you want him to have, K9 maybe? Also, look at the flop texture, apart from a couple of gutshots there's nothing going on, which makes it exactly the sort of flop top set might check through in position.
Hard to laydown, though. I mean, theoretically it looks like a clear laydown, but maybe the guy just got 2 outed on another table and is drawing to a baby flush here... Also, I would ask why, given the action, isn't he shoving over your raise? I guess you see people make those sort of mistakes all the time though. I dunno, ugly ugly spot.
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#5
08-21-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
I'm surprised this hand has so few responses, I think it's really interesting. I've changed my mind and think you have to call getting nearly 3 to 1, but expect to lose.
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#9
08-21-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
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[ QUOTE ] wtf bet river. You have a flush. [/ QUOTE ] What does he beat? [/ QUOTE ] Everything but the A-high flush and a boat [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#10
08-21-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: 200NL River the flush on a paired board.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] wtf bet river. You have a flush. [/ QUOTE ] What does he beat? [/ QUOTE ] Everything but the A-high flush and a boat [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] And how many of those hands get to the river, overcalling a big raise on the turn, and then bet the river on a paired and flushing board?
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