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#21
11-03-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: 2/4 I die a little inside whenever I do this.
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ya i never fold this ever.. he pretty well repin one hand and every thing missed... [/ QUOTE ] The problem here is he is repping the hand extremely well. Players with 1.5 AFs typically don't run big bluffs, and when they do, they do it very badly with odd lines that make very little sense. This isn't the case here, his line makes perfect sense for a very obvious holding, and with this type of player, when that happens, they typically have that holding. If there wasn't 2 clubs on the flop I think this would be even more obvious. And if we think draws are that big a part of his range to even come close to calling this we should be raising the turn anyhow. 
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#24
11-03-2007, 11:02 PM
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Re: 2/4 I die a little inside whenever I do this.
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wow, i can just tell im gonna get flamed here... good fold on the river but if im playing well i fold turn against these types [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a good fold on the river, but folding the turn is definitely burning money. "These types" donk the turn with a TON of hands we beat. I think raising the turn is the best play.
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#25
11-03-2007, 11:09 PM
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Re: 2/4 I die a little inside whenever I do this.
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[ QUOTE ] wow, i can just tell im gonna get flamed here... good fold on the river but if im playing well i fold turn against these types [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a good fold on the river, but folding the turn is definitely burning money. "These types" donk the turn with a TON of hands we beat. I think raising the turn is the best play. [/ QUOTE ] meh idk about the turn fold-its prolly pretty rare that i do it-but i really think that people under value moments like this...i think of them as "inflection poitns" (when someone takes the lead away) and usually a passive players inflection poitn is a good hand and a good players is a semi bluff or something... those are obvoiusly broad generalizations but i think they are true more often than not
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#27
11-04-2007, 01:12 AM
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Re: 2/4 I die a little inside whenever I do this.
looks good, this is 89/TJ/33 way more than missed draws.
since when do people with 1.5 AF take this line and overbet bluff river on this board? he'd have to be not only bad, but really really weird bad too.
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#30
11-04-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: 2/4 I die a little inside whenever I do this.
Turn call is standard. I fold river and don't think it is as close as others are saying here.
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