Check/Mucking the Nuts

[Broderick C.]

Quick Last night 1/2 live. I flop top full in five way limped pot and check fold face up with action behind me and storm out of casino.

So I used to play live a lot but I mostly play online now. Now when I do play live I find myself getting really mad when bad players makes retarded moves and win big pots.(even if i'm not involved in the pot)Add that to actually being able to see these players, and listening to their "logic" as to why they had to do this or had to do that, and it tilts me out of control. This even happens if i'm winning.(I was up a bit less than 1/2 of a buyin last night and I could only take it for like an hour before leaving)

What the [censored] is going on?

[holdme]

lol i question your play

[Broderick C.]

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lol i question your play

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Its just that watching all the bad play and especially the "logic" first hand makes me feel like I somehow dont deserve to win with a good hand, and that I should be in there sucking out for a huge pot, hence me folding he nuts. Then I get mad that they are making me mad and leave so I dont just lose everything

[jdubs015]

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lol i question your play

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Its just that watching all the bad play and especially the "logic" first hand makes me feel like I somehow dont deserve to win with a good hand, and that I should be in there sucking out for a huge pot, hence me folding he nuts. Then I get mad that they are making me mad and leave so I dont just lose everything

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wait.. so your losing less by mucking the nuts in a juicy game than just getting it all in?

[Broderick C.]

yes

[Psyzoid]

ask yourself who's the bad player now.

[kekedarius]

You're a retard.

[Farfenugen]

I heart B&M poker. You are all a bunch of nutcases.

[Albert Moulton]

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Play to win money. If you flop top full house in a multiway pot of loose players only to open fold face up, then I'm pretty sure you aren't playing to maximize your EV.

The worse others play, the more +EV the game. Sure, it might have some serious variance, but the EV should be quite large over the long run.

Don't encourage bad players to play better. Don't tap the fish tank and scare off the weak players. Be nice. Say "nice hand" when you lose. Play tight with good position. Value bet good hands. Bluff less. Take their money.

But the main thing is to keep taking more of their money than you're giving away by putting yourself in +EV situations, then letting the cards fall as they may.

I think you need to reexamine your motives at the table. You seem to want to have some kind of intellectual challenge, and you are insulted when you don't have players that can be worthy of your skills in order to make you feel more rewarded when you beat another good player.

That is a bad way to play cards.

Play to win money.

Win the money.

Be nice to the bad players.

Be nice when they get lucky so they like you when they eventually give the money back with interest later in that session, or later in the week, month, or year.

Take their money.

Oh, and when you do find an intellectually challenging table full of players as good as you, then change tables. Why play in a game that is neutral EV? That makes no sense if you have better alternatives.

[iggymcfly]

People like you are why I can't stand playing live poker at even reasonably low stakes. Whiny little nit bitches that make everyone at the table miserable and yell at the fish because they don't understand how poker works. Please go away and never come back.