pros tipping dealers - Page 5

killsadie · #41 11-10-2007, 06:37 AM

just dont tip. you can save yourself tons of cash by not doing so. youre obviously not required to and why should you if they dont even appreciate it and just take your money with a barely audible "thanks". Like its just SOP to take at least a dollar every time they throw some cards out at chipstacks. Over time, it adds up to quite a chunk.

SNOWBALL · #42 11-10-2007, 07:00 AM

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Back when they used to have 50 cent pieces on the tables I saw a guy bring a roll of quarters to the 40-80 so he wouldn't have to tip an entire 50 cents.

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I think that is awesome

pfapfap · #43 11-10-2007, 12:11 PM

You're free to tip whatever you want to. I just always say to those who watch the tips for a down at their table and multiply... I'm tipping out $4/hr chip runners, $1.5/hr DC, $3/hr floor, a few bucks a night to the cage, I have two hours (usually at least) of break, and plenty of tables with hardly any tokes.

It's a sweet job for what it is, don't get me wrong, but there's more than what you see.

Anyway, I'm happy with $1/pot as long as you keep the game moving. Be a courteous, consistent player. Don't hide your cards. Put your bets in. Understand that we make mistakes sometimes. Help rather than hinder. Smile. Say hello.

All of that means much more to me than a big tip. When a pro/prop tips me a buck, I'm more appreciative because I understand how much more it means to them. And I certainly don't think down on one for no tip on a blind steal or tiny post-drop flop.

The pros I don't like are those that want me to sing for my supper. Sorry, I'm not kissing your ass in hopes that after a year of dealing perfectly with no mistakes (in your own ego-filled mind), you might throw me a buck here or there. If you're that kind of player, stay at home.

So, be nice. And understand that other players look to you as an example, so, please, at least do one chip when appropriate. If you really feel you can't tip, then the least you can do is be a good, friendly, helpful player. It's your choice not to tip, but don't hold up my game or encourage others to be discourteous through example.

nycbuddha · #44 11-10-2007, 01:01 PM

I play in NYC at a place where I'm a regular and I tip more than most of you. Club dealers do not get a paycheck, they live entirely on tips. (Honestly, you pros and pro wannabes come off sounding cheap to me--and I'm a guy who thinks of himself as too cheap sometimes!)

I tip $1 for any pot, even a blind steal.
I tip $2 for a pot over $150.
For bigger pots, I tip 1% of my profit for the pot.

I am a winning player, so I'm not tipping myself into oblivian. I'm also an uber-tight player, so I'm not tipping that many pots.

At casinos I don't tip blind steals but I will tip every other pot at least $1.

psandman · #45 11-10-2007, 01:08 PM

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Club dealers do not get a paycheck, they live entirely on tips.

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They get no insurance, no unemployment benefits, and are subject to arrest. Absolutely the players should be taking good care of these dealers.

TacitMike · #46 11-10-2007, 07:14 PM

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I tip $1 for any pot, even a blind steal.
I tip $2 for a pot over $150.
For bigger pots, I tip 1% of my profit for the pot.

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So if you win a 160 pot where you played heads up the whole way, you profit $80. How much do you tip?

Diana Ross Fan · #47 11-10-2007, 09:04 PM

Interesting, no one seems to factor the rake into their tipping policy. I certainly toke more at a place that rakes 4$ per pot than one that rakes 6$ per pot (limit HE).

Also whether the place pools tips or not. Does that make a diffence to anyone? Not saying that it should change your toking but for some of us it does.

terp · #48 11-10-2007, 09:23 PM

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wow, i feel like a shmuck! i play in the 1 2 and just realized how much money im losing on tipping to much, and im a winning player. im a bartender and a server, and never really realized what i was doing. i just thought everyone else was really cheap. thank you!

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Weird, I was just thinking I tip bartenders and servers too much. We just gave a waiter $30 on a $130 bill at the Palm in AC

Edit: I don't know if it was really worth $160 for the two of us, but it was pretty close, 14 oz filet mignon was pretty awesome

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disclaimer: former server/bartender

$30 on $130 is nice, but it's so little above the baseline amount in dollars that it's not worth stressing over. 20% (standard tip at a nice place for GOOD to EXCELLENT service, which you should absolutely expect for an expensive meal) is $26.

SNOWBALL · #49 11-10-2007, 10:15 PM

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disclaimer: former server/bartender

$30 on $130 is nice, but it's so little above the baseline amount in dollars that it's not worth stressing over. 20% (standard tip at a nice place for GOOD to EXCELLENT service, which you should absolutely expect for an expensive meal) is $26.

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I'm always happy to see the dealers receive a large tip from someone. If I tipped like this though, I would be on the rail in no time flat, so it's not an option for me.

RR · #50 11-10-2007, 11:10 PM

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disclaimer: former server/bartender

$30 on $130 is nice, but it's so little above the baseline amount in dollars that it's not worth stressing over. 20% (standard tip at a nice place for GOOD to EXCELLENT service, which you should absolutely expect for an expensive meal) is $26.

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I'm always happy to see the dealers receive a large tip from someone. If I tipped like this though, I would be on the rail in no time flat, so it's not an option for me.

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This is worth noting. Generous tippers keep good dealers in the business. Occasionally someone will try to convert one of the generous tippers into a non-tipper so they can get more of the money. These people generally need to go.

Someone told me a story of a heads up 300-600 game (that took place when 10-20 was a big game). There was a well known player (who just about everyone here has heard of) and his target. It was a private game and they got one of the best dealers in the place to deal it. The target started off tipping on every hand he won. Then the well known player says "we can just take care of him when we are done." This kept the live one from tipping and then when the well known player was done he stiffed the dealer.