12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

[woohoo88]

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We're getting ~1.64:1 or 38%.

Hand 0: 62.114% 55.83% 06.28% 286799352 32275128.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 37.886% 31.60% 06.28% 162341592 32275128.00 { AJs }


So even vs what I think is maybe a slightly tight range vs an unknown here you're about breakeven to call.


The biggest problem I see with this hand is not having a plan. You should know whether you'll call a shove or not before you raise (and sometimes adjust your raise size accordingly). I'm also not a fan of the raise size with any intention of folding to bb's shove.

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Pot with blinds an antes (25) = 675 pre+1000+700(call)+3700(raise)=6075/2700=2.25/1?...is this correct?

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You're short here. It's 3705 to call.

[erc007]

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We're getting ~1.64:1 or 38%.

Hand 0: 62.114% 55.83% 06.28% 286799352 32275128.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 37.886% 31.60% 06.28% 162341592 32275128.00 { AJs }


So even vs what I think is maybe a slightly tight range vs an unknown here you're about breakeven to call.


The biggest problem I see with this hand is not having a plan. You should know whether you'll call a shove or not before you raise (and sometimes adjust your raise size accordingly). I'm also not a fan of the raise size with any intention of folding to bb's shove.

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Pot with blinds an antes (25) = 675 pre+1000+700(call)+3700(raise)=6075/2700=2.25/1?...is this correct?

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You're short here. It's 3705 to call.

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LOL...sorry...late+i'm bad at math...i knew over 2 to 1 sounded too good to be true.

[levAA]

I think the main problem in this hand is the preflop raise-size.

With the stacks button and small blind are no problem, cause you get the odds to call in any case, so you should think about BB stack size before you raise.

Here you have obv. chosen a bad ammount, cause you have a hard decision to make now.

I think a good bet-size would have been about 800. Easy to call if one of the small stacks come over the top and easy to lay down against a BB-push.

I think that these decision are important to make before you bet, to avoid these ugly decisions.

As played I would laydown AJ.

[MVPaul]

This may be flawed thinking and probably even moreso at these small stakes turbo games, but I raised it to 1000 to discourage action from the blinds and just pick up a cheap, uncontested pot. I find that if I raise to 800, I'm getting hands like KTo, J9s+,all pairs, etc. to come along (and that they probably fold to the 1000 raise). I know my hand is way ahead of these and that a cb will likely take down the pot on the flop but I would still rather end the hand pf, not necessarily out of fear of flopping but more for simplicity's sake.

I like the advice about only being concerned with the BB's stack, though and I had not considered it at the time.

[levAA]

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I find that if I raise to 800, I'm getting hands like KTo, J9s+,all pairs, etc. to come along

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and that is exactly what you want - to play a dominating hand in position.

[sapsuckah]

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The biggest problem I see with this hand is not having a plan. You should know whether you'll call a shove or not before you raise (and sometimes adjust your raise size accordingly). I'm also not a fan of the raise size with any intention of folding to bb's shove.

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QFT.

That said, if your plan is to call a push from the BB, then it really doesn't matter what you raise and you might as well push in the first place to maximize FE. Effective stacks are only 16 BBs, you can bust any of the remaining players, and you have a hand that's likely to be dominating if they put you on a steal and call with something marginal.

[M1cKmAcK]

you're stuck on almost 2:1 odds b/c you raised so much pre. I don't think this is a call situation. you have a tight image at the table. i don't see you better than a coin flip here, could be dominated or worse. fold.

[BarryLyndon]

I'd raise to 800 BECAUSE if you get pushed by big stack you can lay it down, but if one of the shorties come over the top, then you happily get it. It's one of those situations where you plan the raise size around stacks, not around the simple principal of "discouraging action" (which is tempting and a valid concern, but still).

Barry

[BarryLyndon]

Also, it's rare that a player at these stakes is gonna slap on a pair of balls and start raising a sizeable stack of his with a Laggy resteal range. It just doesn't happen like that. Sexy plays aren't the norm at this level, so sexy calls are usually just bad. AcJc is hardly a "sexpert" call to a reraise, it's may be slightly +EV, but I would rather abuse the blinds with an array of pushes and what not later on than take a borderline EV play here.

Barry

[MVPaul]

thanks for all the responses. In summary, raise to 8 or 900 pf and plan on folding a push from the BB (because he almost never pushes as a steal with mediocre holdings) but calling a shorties all-in.