donked into on top pairing river with BP

[MacGuyV]

You guys are all liars; nobody folds here.

[Oink]

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You guys are all liars; nobody folds here.

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ya...


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YOURFACE

I tried making a video today. but i played it back and

1. the sound was quiet (this i can fix by adjusting line in volume)
2. the sound is choppy
3. the sound is not playing at the correct time, which gets worse as the video gets longer





can you just give your CamStudio settings??????????????????????



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I suck at IT cuz I am old. But feel free to PM or IM me.

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then i go click the other one where i'm down 15 bb.

"well, runnin 36/30 over here, losing everything. i think oink is wrong"

HELP


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I thought we went over this a few times

rule #1. Oink is right

rule #2. When in doubt go to rule # 1. If you forgot rule #1 just call

[yourface]

BACK ON TOPIC PPL camon

no of course I did not fold here because I am a good SD monkey, but I really do think it is a fold vs a reasonable player

[thepizzlefosho]

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BACK ON TOPIC PPL camon

no of course I did not fold here because I am a good SD monkey, but I really do think it is a fold vs a reasonable player

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the problem is that most of us just see 50/30 and say unreasonable player. But as we all know you can play way too LAG pf and still play well post. I guess if I had 60 hands on this guy I would call. If I had a ton of hands and didn't see him getting out of line often than folding is the best play, but like you I probably don't do it at the table. However, if I have ever folded to his river donks before in this session I think you have to call here.

[vmacosta]

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BACK ON TOPIC PPL camon

no of course I did not fold here because I am a good SD monkey, but I really do think it is a fold vs a reasonable player

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the problem is that most of us just see 50/30 and say unreasonable player.

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pizzle,
I am 40/30 when filtered for 3-5 players (AP=4.7). Not much of a stretch to imagine somebody decent could VPIP another 10%, particularly if they coolcall a lot of stuff that's close from SB (A2s, K9o, Q8s, JTo, T8s, etc).

[thepizzlefosho]

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BACK ON TOPIC PPL camon

no of course I did not fold here because I am a good SD monkey, but I really do think it is a fold vs a reasonable player

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the problem is that most of us just see 50/30 and say unreasonable player.

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pizzle,
I am 40/30 when filtered for 3-5 players (AP=4.7). Not much of a stretch to imagine somebody decent could VPIP another 10%, particularly if they coolcall a lot of stuff that's close from SB (A2s, K9o, Q8s, JTo, T8s, etc).

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oh I totally agree. My point is that most people that see OP and make a response are used to 6max stats, and even at 5max see 50/30 and think oh this guy is unreasonable postflop. It is a somewhat snap reaction that probably tilts the view point on our assessment of a villains play at the table.

I think folding here is ok if this is the first time you have done so, and this player is entirely reasonable. If you have folded to donks before to this player, or you have seen them get out of line you really need to call.

and as many of us have said several times I wouldn't raise the flop.

[waffle]

Grunching.. I fold here. As long as your are raising your good hands on this flop I see no harm in folding this river.

[Heisenb3rg]

rofl @ folding pairs

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raising is terrible unless your image is extra nitty, imo. It is very rare that a decent lag will give up on a pair when he's taken a somewhat suspicous line.

I have never folded a pair in this spot, mostly bc I sometimes donk a busted draw or mediocre ace when I'm in villain's spot and assume many decent players do as well. I muck weak A-hi or worse here usually.

[vmacosta]

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raising is terrible unless your image is extra nitty, imo. It is very rare that a decent lag will give up on a pair when he's taken a somewhat suspicous line.

I have never folded a pair in this spot, mostly bc I sometimes donk a busted draw or mediocre ace when I'm in villain's spot and assume many decent players do as well. I muck weak A-hi or worse here usually.

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err,misread hand, will reconsider later