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Assuming a scenario in which button folds hero has 12.3% eq vs QQ, KK, AA. Thats about 3 outs

Now add AdKd and AQs and Hero has about 14.7% eq; about 3.5 outs.

In any case. Folding if it gets 3-bet is a mistake IMO. In particular considering the great implied vs KK and AA

[/ QUOTE ]correct me if im wrong, but you are talking about the equity for both the turn and the river, right? so hero would pay 3 small bets to win 17(10+5+2). Thats 3:17 + 4-5 implied.

my point is, u cant say hero has 12 % equity and needs to call ONE small bet with the pot offering 15. To make full use from those 13 % equity he needs to call 3

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No!

If you raise and BB 3-bets then you get 15:1 odds. To call that you need a little less than 3 outs to call. The decision at that point is only about that 1 bet. Not the 3-bets you put in in total on the street given that scenario.

Against QQ+ hero has about 3 outs

Add AdKd and AQs and he has about 3.5 outs.

I just used stove to figure out the number of outs as its difficult to count backdoor outs precisely when you want your average # of outs.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with 3 outs on the flop.

it was just pretty confusing bringing the overall equity in

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If you have x clean outs to the nuts where villain will have no redraw then your eq vs a random hand is

x/45 + ((45-x)/45)*(x/44)

Likewise if you stove your hand vs a range then you can use this equation to figure out your "clean" # of outs or average # of outs

x/45 + ((45-x)/45)*(x/44) = 12.6% is solved by aproxx 3.

So instead of making a tedious counting of outs you can just use stove and solve that equation in excel