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Old 11-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Bulletproof Monk Bulletproof Monk is offline
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

ppl checking behind turn are soooooooooooooooooooooooo results oriented
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

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ppl checking behind turn are soooooooooooooooooooooooo results oriented

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eskimo,

it's hard not to be in this situation. still, surely you must admit that bb's cap flop/check turn line is weird.

op,

this would have been a lot more interesting if you had stopped the action at your first turn decision. too late now, but think about it for next time.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

oh wait i missed preflop i thought he just called...

yeah i dont even 3bet the flop here, you are ahead of nothing. in fact checking back the flop and calling down would be fine imo.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

Are you still calling down as played?
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

nah i fold the turn as played, but i think the flop is very overplayed where we beat almost nothing (maybe AQs?).

yeah again i completely misread the op.... sry
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

If BB capped the flop, then I check behind on the turn, unless you are absolutely certain that he has K10.
Check turn, call river bet, bet river if checked to you.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

At PF I put BB range at AQo+,AQs+,99+ becoust he is aggressive.

I stoved flop vesrsus him (after action at flop I assume he could have JJ+, AQs, AQo).

Board: 7s Qd Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.549% 52.55% 02.00% 13006 495.00 { JJ+, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 45.451% 43.45% 02.00% 10754 495.00 { KcKh }

If I will assume that MP3 has 4-5 outs redraw against me with hand like AK, Qx, Jx then when I will rase than I can make him fold hand that could draw profitably so 5 outs are like 10% equity until turn.
So I have 45.5% equity vs BB and I can kick out MP3 which has 10-15 equity so its worth to try to kick him right?

EDIT: I put my equity versus all villains

Board: 7s Qd Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.322% 46.35% 00.98% 112997 2379.50 { JJ+, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 35.364% 34.24% 01.12% 83479 2741.00 { KcKh }
Hand 2: 17.314% 16.95% 00.36% 41327 886.50 { AKs, QTs, JTs, AKo }

At flop I have 16:1 to call and If i decide raise instead of call then I will invest 17:1 so kick out MP3.
So I invest 1/18= 5% of pot to increace my equity about 10% so its ok to make 3bet at flop, right?
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

yea
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

So I think that 3 bet at flop is ok becouse he will have often enought AQo there and I will get more equoty then I invest.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: fold pocet KK after turn raise?

:G:
Unless you have a strong read on this opponent I would call the turn and then call the river. Maybe this is spew, but it is what I would do.
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