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Old 07-15-2007, 09:48 AM
Stefan_K Stefan_K is offline
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Default Preflop against 2 good players

CO is solid 20/17 regular
BTN seams solid, 22/19

Calling here is just better here, even when they both rais in late posission?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $284.50
Hero (BB): $440.10
UTG: $384.00
MP: $746.30
CO: $406.30
BTN: $1,311.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $46.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $154.00</font>
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

I think folding here is OK OOP. Calling is risky because you aren't closing the action and you could well end up getting stacked by a bigger overpair. This is MSNL btw.
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

calling is the worst option imo, and i wouldnt fourbet unless ive seen button 3bet alot. So fold/4bet depending on button
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:32 AM
NatalieBella87 NatalieBella87 is offline
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

When I see stats like buttons I kinda assume there good players capable of 3-betting light. CO seems tight aggressive so would be an ideal player to 3-bet light.

I think all three options are fine, folding keeps you out of trouble, raising takes down the hand straight away alot of the time (but never gets called by a worse hand). Calling is the option I would do most of the time (flame me if you want to for saying that). I just feel we are ahead of buttons range by such a margin that we can profitble call. yes on alot flops you are going to be check/folding, but on others you are going to get it all in and have the best hand.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:50 PM
Stefan_K Stefan_K is offline
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

later that session i came in the same spot with AKo, I chosed to fold. It was the best right?
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:51 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

I would tend to think AKo would be a standard raise/push in this situation (assuming the button is known to 3bet lightish).
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Preflop against 2 good players

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later that session i came in the same spot with AKo, I chosed to fold. It was the best right?

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If the AK was same spot as in it went CO open btn 3 bet and you were blinds then 4 bet and call push if you have like 150bb or less, the JJ folding/4 bet are baically the same in temrs of EV for 100bb
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