So I just folded a set in a turbo

[flyingmoose]

PokerStars Game #10929783719: Tournament #55414058, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/14 - 03:16:39 (ET)
Table '55414058 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ZithDragon (3050 in chips)
Seat 2: KELLYBAR (1640 in chips)
Seat 3: highmoose (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: dragon6285 (1510 in chips)
Seat 6: Bagpusssss (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: sweething23 (1490 in chips)
Seat 8: PAT060179 (1430 in chips)
Seat 9: koob nossel (1470 in chips)
ZithDragon: posts small blind 10
KELLYBAR: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to highmoose [9s 9h]
highmoose: raises 40 to 60
dragon6285: calls 60
Bagpusssss: calls 60
sweething23: folds
PAT060179: folds
koob nossel: folds
ZithDragon: folds
KELLYBAR: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3d 9c 8d]
KELLYBAR: checks
highmoose: bets 200
dragon6285: calls 200
Bagpusssss: folds
KELLYBAR: folds
*** TURN *** [3d 9c 8d] [Qd]
highmoose: checks
dragon6285: bets 400
highmoose: folds
dragon6285 collected 650 from pot
dragon6285: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 650 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9c 8d Qd]
Seat 1: ZithDragon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: KELLYBAR (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: highmoose folded on the Turn
Seat 5: dragon6285 collected (650)
Seat 6: Bagpusssss folded on the Flop
Seat 7: sweething23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PAT060179 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: koob nossel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

That was such a retarded card I didn't think I could beat anything and I obv couldn't call 1/3 of what I had left for a fullhouse draw... But it's friday night and they could just be drunk and dumb and have floated for a pot-sized bet on the flop with QJ or have Q8 or something.

[sah_24]

no way i fold there u played it so slow showin no agression he had to think his top pair of queens were good he could have any q there or 2 pair at best. Maybe the flush rarely but u got redraws if u happen to run into that i think u were ahead

[gibler321]

any reads on dragon? if he hit his flush, most of the time wouldnt he be checking behind?

[flyingmoose]

Sah, what Q is he floating the flop for a pot sized bet with?

gibler, no read. Why would he check behind a flush when he needs 2 streets of value to stack me? Also, he would bet a straight and any flush that wasn't the nut flush because of the river diamond possibility.

[levAA]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com


SB (t3050)
BB (t1640)
Hero (t1470)
UTG+1 (t1510)
MP1 (t1440)
MP2 (t1490)
CO (t1430)
Button (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, MP1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t250) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, MP1 folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t650) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t400</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1050

That was such a retarded card I didn't think I could beat anything and I obv couldn't call 1/3 of what I had left for a fullhouse draw... But it's friday night and they could just be drunk and dumb and have floated for a pot-sized bet on the flop with QJ or have Q8 or something.

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I'd never fold a set here.
I would not check the turn but shove all-in.
you might be up against the flush but there are so many more possibilities.

[Pokerfarian]

I guessed from the title you'd probably have made a mistake; after looking at the hand I'm sure it was awful.

[flyingmoose]

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I guessed from the title you'd probably have made a mistake; after looking at the hand I'm sure it was awful.

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I expected like half the posts to be low content and include no ranges like this one; I guess I'm lucky it's just one.

[bridgeforsale]

The turn is a terrible card. However, since your bet on the flop could easily be interpeted as a continuation bet;which followed by the check on the turn could easily induce a bet, especially if your opponent picked up top pair, by any two cards. The strongest hand that I think your opponent could bet this much here is a straight with no daimond. What makes the stituation even worse is that this is a turbo and you dont have alot of time to accumlate chips which makes passing up stituations like these impossible. Really I think you played the had very well till the fold. You should have just shoved over the top; even if he has you beat minus a set of queens you got outs.

[Pokerfarian]

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I expected like half the posts to be low content and include no ranges like this one; I guess I'm lucky it's just one.

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You don't need ranges/reads/anything really to tell this is a horrid fold. You should expect half the posts to be low content if you fold sets here

[FortunaMaximus]

Pot offering t450, you've t1210 behind.

Think your turn check is ok, but you have to shove turn here, because AQ/KQ are possible here. And your pf/flop looks standardish even for stuff that missed, like AK. Once you check turn, he can bet it with AQ/KQ one diamond hands and feel he can take the pot away a decent % of the time.

Shove turn.