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Old 11-15-2007, 01:20 AM
carlosboozr carlosboozr is offline
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Default 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

so i played donkaments tonight and obvious remembered why i hate them

kk < 99 24k grtd
qq < 78 50/50
qq < 45 random

anyway enough complaing...so i am in the 10r 15k grtd on ft when this hand came up after the rebuy period on a new table with no reads on the players since i was just moved there....

is this a insta call with no reads?


Full Tilt Poker Game #4179784995: $15,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (31175183), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:47:30 ET - 2007/11/14

Seat 1: helnho (3,850)

Seat 2: Mike Kowal (5,380)

Seat 3: carlosboozr (6,746)

Seat 4: Jazz_88 (8,570)

Seat 5: COIN212 (7,200)

Seat 6: MannyMoo (7,045)

Seat 7: luckychief (17,250)

Seat 8: krissy24 (9,356)

Seat 9: TheMotch (6,885)

krissy24 posts the small blind of 50

TheMotch posts the big blind of 100

The button is in seat #7

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to carlosboozr [Ts Td]

helnho folds

luckychief has been disconnected

luckychief has reconnected

Mike Kowal has 15 seconds left to act

Mike Kowal folds

carlosboozr has 15 seconds left to act

carlosboozr raises to 299

Jazz_88 folds

COIN212 raises to 7,200, and is all in

MannyMoo folds

luckychief has 15 seconds left to act

luckychief folds

krissy24 folds

TheMotch folds

carlosboozr calls 6,447, and is all in

COIN212 shows [XX]

carlosboozr shows [Ts Td]

Uncalled bet of 454 returned to COIN212

*** FLOP *** [5h 2d Ah]

*** TURN *** [5h 2d Ah] [3d]

*** RIVER *** [5h 2d Ah 3d] [9c]

COIN212 shows a pair of what?

carlosboozr shows a pair of Tens

carlosboozr wins the pot (13,642) with a pair of Tens

The blinds are now 60/120

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 13,642 | Rake 0

Board: [5h 2d Ah 3d 9c]

Seat 1: helnho didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: Mike Kowal didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: carlosboozr showed [Ts Td] and won (13,642) with a pair of Tens

Seat 4: Jazz_88 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: COIN212 showed

Seat 6: MannyMoo didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: luckychief (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: krissy24 (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 9: TheMotch (big blind) folded before the Flop
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:37 AM
BrandiFan BrandiFan is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

Converters are our friends. I don't call without a read of some sort. You're frequently ahead, but some clever players like to do that with KK+ in ss donkaments.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

You just put in 67BBs PF against an unknown player on a full ring table? Obviously it's huge spewage
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:53 AM
carlosboozr carlosboozr is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

thanks for the answers...

mainly a cash game player just hate folding to pushes like this bc there are so many donks in the world
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:54 AM
sharkscopeaholic sharkscopeaholic is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

Ok, so we're still in the rebuy period right? You both have big stacks for 50-100 blinds. Since we're in the rebuy period this should be an easy call with the auto rebuy button clicked.

Full Tilt (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of 50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises 7200 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls 6447 (All-In).
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:28 AM
BrandiFan BrandiFan is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

OP said it was after the rebuy period. I'm also calling this most of the time during the rebuy period.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

Rebuy period = AI, LDO

Now, I see no reason to dump our OK stack with a
speculative/hopeful call with tens.

-ZEN
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:20 PM
NickNick NickNick is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

[ QUOTE ]

carlosboozr raises to 299


[/ QUOTE ]

Horrible play.

After Rebuy period - Easy fold against unknown player (assuming you feel you have an edge over the field). At best you are up against 50/50.

Before Rebuy ends - depends on average stack, prob still a fold.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:29 PM
yNnOs yNnOs is offline
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Default Re: 10 dollar rebuy on FT is this an insta call/muck?

Raise 300-400 is fine. Instafold to instashove, I think you're too deep being that its after the rebuy period. Besides, against a typical range of someone with a stack M = 48, its not 50/50, you're considerably behind. BTW, what in the world did villain have? 88-66? That's the horrible play.
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