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Old 10-30-2007, 06:48 PM
sisyphus75 sisyphus75 is offline
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Default Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk

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If he's on complete air wouldn't calling turn and calling river be best?

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are you refering to his line? His line is weired. How does he see you? he could be calling with pp2's cause he is putting you on a cbet and hit on the turn. He could be trying to trap you with a set or two pair from the flop. All this depends on how he sees you, imo.

what is weired is that he is overbetting. and if he had a monster, why would he not v-bet? When floating don't we just just make a standard 3/4-2/3 pot bet?

Is he overbetting cause he knows you would call? His 1.6 AF would make me fold to his overbet. If he was 4-5 AF, I would shove.

you are ahead of his range, though. I would be inclined to shove turn, he could be on a flush draw, or just trying to get you of the hand.
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:52 PM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk

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i think i would raise and call a shove. if you are beat, oh well

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you regularly play 400bb pots with this attitude?

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you're the one whose thinking is wrong.

who cares how deep it is. either you think it's profitable or it's not.

but i'd call here, raising doesn't do anything but let him play perfectly
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:16 AM
Jurrr Jurrr is offline
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Default Re: JJ deep overpair against 56/15 aggrodonk

Thanks, everyone. Anybody likes a bet-call or bet-fold on the turn better than checking?

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but i'd call here, raising doesn't do anything but let him play perfectly

[/ QUOTE ]That's what I thought as well.

Also, regarding the AF thing; I've recently started to look more into WWSF than the AF. His WWSF is very very high for somebody seeing nearly half the flops, which means he bluffs a lot.

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<font color="white">Evidently he played his top set expertly, as he took me for 200BB; something he wouldn't have done had he "only" potted turn and river</font>
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