NL100 KK draw heavy board

tgo007 · #1 07-02-2007, 11:49 PM

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($121.55)
SB ($100.90)
BB ($100)
UTG ($97)
Hero ($105.35)
MP1 ($110.50)
MP2 ($315.60)
MP3 ($43.85)
CO ($73.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 5 folds, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10, SB folds, UTG calls $10.

Turn: ($36) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $15.

bad call after the raise?

River: ($96) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $52 (All-In), Hero ????

Do i have to call?

jessyj07 · #2 07-02-2007, 11:54 PM

I would check the turn and if I bet it would be so I could bet/fold. I would also fold the river. Not only does the straight beat you but many 2 pairs beat you and so do sets.

TwoNitty · #3 07-03-2007, 12:22 AM

totally read dependant. Against some people you can call that-guys that you have seen overplay smaller overpairs like TT JJ, but most of the time drop it.

chicken10der · #4 07-03-2007, 12:42 AM

the turn check/raise is ALWAYS a big hand at 100nl - you can bank on it.

also, make bigger bets.

RyanCMU · #5 07-03-2007, 12:47 AM

If you are going to be the turn size your bet larger... I like a $25-30 bet, and a fold to a raise on the turn.

As played, I fold the river.

Johnes Benjamin · #6 07-03-2007, 01:47 AM

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the turn check/raise is ALWAYS a big hand at 100nl - you can bank on it.

also, make bigger bets.

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I think chicken is right but it reminded me of this hand yesterday and I just had to post it

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($94.35)
Hero ($110.30)
MP2 ($102.20)
MP3 ($89.45)
CO ($76.35)
Button ($77.40)
SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($72.95)
BB ($22)
UTG ($78.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($13) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $7, CO folds, Villain raises to $68.95, Hero calls $61.95.

River: ($150.90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $150.90

Crap, forgot most important part. Anyway, he had AJc flush draw

Johnes Benjamin · #7 07-03-2007, 01:51 AM

I think I b/f the turn and I like the idea of betting more.
You really have to fold the river IMO

Cry Me A River · #8 07-03-2007, 02:05 AM

BalugaWhale Theorem
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...&PHPSESSID=

What are you beating on the turn? Unless you have reads that villain is really aggro and will do this with TT-QQ or the FD or something like A8 you're toast.