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Old 06-24-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

Villian is unknown.

Looks like I have to give him credit for a set here considering the limp/call preflop and the relatively dry board; or am I being too nitty?

Calling the min-raise to reevaluate on turn is fine, no?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $56.55
BB: $38.65
UTG: $69.15
UTG+1: $47.00
MP1: $11.25
MP2: $37.80
MP3: $20.45
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $29.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP3 folds

Flop: ($7.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $10.50</font>, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: ($28.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $25.00</font>,
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

This is played fine. I think I fold turn.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

check behind flop. Do not feareth the 5 outers. If he checks turn bet 1/2 pot for value, if he leads you simply call.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

AC,

If we check behind on flops like this with the goods, doesn't it kinda ruin our ability to c'bet with air on the same kind of flop?
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

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AC,

If we check behind on flops like this with the goods, doesn't it kinda ruin our ability to c'bet with air on the same kind of flop?

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Against regulars maybe, but he is an unknown. And the multi-tabling regulars may not even be paying attention to this hand. Also it is the rare full ring nit that will check/raise your CB's with air. And the others are too dumb to fathom your pot control checking behind with AA "omgz he didn't protect his hand!!"
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

Also his most likely hand is a pocket pair to limp/call. If that's the case he's either got a set or drawing to 2 outs. It seems standard way ahead/behind to me. I would also like to see showdown to get info on this unknown player. I fear what is unknown.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

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Also his most likely hand is a pocket pair to limp/call.

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I disagree with this against an unknown.

I'm not hell bent on betting flop being better then checking, but I do know I'd puke if the turn came a ten, jack, queen and villain bet into me.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

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This is played fine. I think I fold turn.

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Old 06-24-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA c/r\'d on flop

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Also his most likely hand is a pocket pair to limp/call.

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I disagree with this against an unknown.

I'm not hell bent on betting flop being better then checking, but I do know I'd puke if the turn came a ten, jack, queen and villain bet into me.

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Because he could have QJ,QT,KJ,JT. These aren't more likely than a pocket pair. But if you are going to put him a range of just about everything then it should be even more important to you to want to see what he limp/calls in EP. And checking the flop will get to showdown most cheaply.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:40 PM
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check behind flop

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Results oriented, betting here is soooo standard, and checking should be done rarely for metagame purposes agains't regulars.
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