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Old 11-26-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default 3 hands vs donk

I am very active at the table, been cbetting and 3betting a lot.. He got sick of me and did the following with Qd6d:

PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(4 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
SB ($219.50)
BB ($287.80) (74/30/3.32/24) (108h)
CO ($51.70)
Hero ($199)

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets $18</font>, Hero calls $18.

Turn: ($69) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets $42</font>, Hero calls $42.

River: ($153) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $153.

A few hands later, this happened.
I figured he probably isn't bluffing because he is betting the river which he didn't do when he was bluffing a few hands earlier.



PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
MP ($321.62)
BU ($205)
SB ($565.60) (74/30/3.32/24) (108h)
BB ($200)
Hero ($203)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($62) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

River: ($162) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $96</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $258.


Then finally, this hand.
I made the call on the river thinking he probably thinks he can push me of a hand since I folded the last time..


PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BB ($361.62)
CO ($218.50)
BU ($230.80) (77/31/3.28/20) (83h)
SB ($198)
Hero ($255.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BU calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $14.

Turn: ($75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38.

River: ($151) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $156.80 (all-in)</font>, Hero calls $156.80.

Final Pot: $464.60.



<font color="red">Thoughts on all hands please. </font>
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

bump please
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

hand #1 value bet river
hand #2 cal river
hand #3 c/r all in ont he turn
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

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hand #1 value bet river
hand #2 cal river
hand #3 c/r all in ont he turn

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I agree w/ this.

Also OP, I wouldn't really expect a donkey to change his play that much from hand to hand, there's a very low probability that he's actually mixing up his play based on what you did in earlier hands, he probably just figures you didn't hit your draw or w/e.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

Value bet hand 1

Fold turn or call river in hand 2. He's more likely to have an 8/9 and think its good than have a 4. A flush is possible but not likely and you can't give him credit for it after calling the turn. As played call the river.

Hand 3 is a check-raise all-in on the turn to defend against a flush draw. As played, easy call on the river as the 5 is very unlikely to have helped him.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

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hand #1 value bet river
hand #2 cal river
hand #3 c/r all in ont he turn

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree w/ this.

Also OP, I wouldn't really expect a donkey to change his play that much from hand to hand

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Wouldn't this lead me to folding the river? In hand one he didn't bet the river with a bluff.. Why would he do it in hand 2? Or you think he is valuebetting river with worse?
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

In hand 3 I would CR all in one the TURN.I think we are ahead here a lot .As played I would call river .

In hand 2 I think we have to decide on the TURN the action on the river.Calling and folding turn seems meah

In hand 1 I think I would play the same.Other posters said to v bet but I don't know v what hands ?
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 3 hands vs donk

the reason for folding river in hand 2 is that I don't think he would fire again with anything I beat.. His range on the turn includes bluffs. I don't know if thats the case on the river sence he checked the river with his previous bluff..
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