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Old 11-13-2007, 02:04 PM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default KK - Awful turn card

Villain is 24/12/2.25

This is the first pot I've played with him, so no reads

Is this ever +EV to call?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $38.50
MP: $54.05
Hero (CO): $58.40
BTN: $62.70
SB: $46.35
BB: $52.90

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $19.75</font>, BB calls $12.75

Turn: ($43.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $31.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero..........
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

I call here getting less than 2.5 to 1.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

I'd say nice bet and move on.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

I'm folding TURN.Don't think we are ever ahead here.
Also I would bet more on the FLOP. (3.25)
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

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I'm folding TURN.Don't think we are ever ahead here.
Also I would bet more on the FLOP. (3.25)

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I agree, I'd have made life a lot easier for myself with a bigger flop bet and re-raise. Probably could have made it so I was getting at least 3:1 on the turn.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

I can see him having an overpair 99+ so I think we have to call

it's possible he has a set or the straight. I don't expect him to have the flush because he seems to try to protect himself in case you have a lone heart in your hand.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:21 PM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

fwiw i think youre beat anyway, turn card is irrelevant imo
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:05 PM
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fwiw i think youre beat anyway, turn card is irrelevant imo

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I don't think this is always true on the flop. I see people doing this with flush draws, straight draws and overpairs.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

meh I dont really like flop 3 bet that much unless you thinkg his range is nothing but draws. plus it inflates the pot to where you kind of have to call his turn push. Id dont think your ahead here on the turn like ever I dont see someone with taggish stats turning like TT into a bluff here.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: KK - Awful turn card

I do like the flop 3bet against reasonably aggressive opponent like this. I'm almost definately shutting down once called though. How often is an overpair really good in this position? Turn card kinda is irrelevant unless its a K imo.

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