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Old 11-11-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default 8/16 Hand Because I Moved Down

Bay 101 8/16 (9 players)

UTG is loose preflop but nitty postflop. He's aggro enough preflop to 3bet QQ preflop, but seems passive and fishy postflop. I think he coldcalled Ax+ in the SB to my BTN raise after 2 limpers and peeled both the flop and turn on a TxxJ board HU.

MP is a 2+2 lurker. He plays straightforward but is a TAGfish because he doesn't read boards or hands well.

SB is a LAGtard. He's opened 33 in EP, limped 83o UTG and this is only the 2nd orbit I've seen of him.

Preflop: KQ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, MP calls, SB raises, Hero calls, All call.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, MP folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero raises(intending to fold).

Preflop/Flop/River?

Cue everyone insisting on a river call. That's fine, but rank these options:
c/r/f
c/r/c
b/c
b/3b/f
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:22 PM
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Call the river 3-bet. Rest is fine.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: 8/16 Hand Because I Moved Down

c/r/c
c/r/f
b3b
b/c
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: 8/16 Hand Because I Moved Down

I think checkcall might be better on the river

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

31 games 0.005 secs 6,200 games/sec

Board: Jc Tc Th Ad 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.613% 51.61% 00.00% 16 0.00 { KcQc }
Hand 1: 48.387% 48.39% 00.00% 15 0.00 { 22, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T8s+, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo }

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Old 11-11-2007, 09:30 PM
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Call the river 3-bet. Rest is fine.

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Why not just check call or bet/call then? I don't think we're a 2-1 favorite to have the best hand
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:37 PM
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Why not just check call or bet/call then? I don't think we're a 2-1 favorite to have the best hand

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I'd think about b/c HU. Keeping the 3rd player in has a ton of value.

Btw, I think villains range as of the turn raise is 22(discounted)/ATo-T6o/ATs-T5s if not all suited Ts. I should have said very loose preflop.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:52 PM
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Why not just check call or bet/call then? I don't think we're a 2-1 favorite to have the best hand

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I'd think about b/c HU. Keeping the 3rd player in has a ton of value.

Btw, I think villains range as of the turn raise is 22(discounted)/ATo-T6o/ATs-T5s if not all suited Ts. I should have said very loose preflop.

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Sorry I forgot it wasn't HU to the river. Oooooooops.

Ok, but he shouldn't have THAT many tens after he calls 2 cold on the flop, should he? You said he was nitty.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:56 PM
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fwiw, I'd 3 bang preflop. I'm find with your river plan here. Live players like the one described will only be 3 balling full houses on the river.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:59 AM
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Bet call the river.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:48 PM
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fwiw, I'd 3 bang preflop. I'm find with your river plan here. Live players like the one described will only be 3 balling full houses on the river.

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I agree with this 100%. It feels dirty but I'm folding to a threebet.
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