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#61
11-10-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
Obviously, it's not fake. It's questionable how good the people were as players, but it would be amazing if they were that good at acting. I have never participated in anything where I didn't put up the whole buy in. I have never saved a percentage with anyone, but that kind of thing happens, though I don't know about it happening on HSP.
There was a thread last year where someone quoted Bobby Hoff saying that some of the hands were set up. I asked Bobby and he said he barely knew about the show and had never said anything. Barry 
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#63
11-10-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
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Obviously, it's not fake. It's questionable how good the people were as players, but it would be amazing if they were that good at acting. I have never participated in anything where I didn't put up the whole buy in. I have never saved a percentage with anyone, but that kind of thing happens, though I don't know about it happening on HSP. There was a thread last year where someone quoted Bobby Hoff saying that some of the hands were set up. I asked Bobby and he said he barely knew about the show and had never said anything. Barry [/ QUOTE ] Thank you, Barry, for your post. I'd like to add this from a column posted in Poker Pro magazine about the second season of HSP: "Fans will witness “Sheiky” hanging around the set on the first day waiting for a seat to open up. However, Shawn had a piece of Mike Matusow, and because of this, the producers would not allow him to play while Matusow was still in the game."
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#64
11-10-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
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Obviously, it's not fake. It's questionable how good the people were as players, but it would be amazing if they were that good at acting. I have never participated in anything where I didn't put up the whole buy in. I have never saved a percentage with anyone, but that kind of thing happens, though I don't know about it happening on HSP. There was a thread last year where someone quoted Bobby Hoff saying that some of the hands were set up. I asked Bobby and he said he barely knew about the show and had never said anything. Barry [/ QUOTE ] I'll say it... End of Thread.
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#65
11-10-2007, 08:07 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
Let's break out of this "Fake" vs. "Real" dichotomy we've been using so far. (We can blame Scotty for his loose language.)
The real questions we should ask are: "Are there players on HSP that are swapping percentages, AND, if so, does that significantly alter the way they play, AND, if so, is this a good thing or bad thing for us?" I wouldn't be surprised if the answers are yes to all three. Here's why: Suppose you're a player on the show: 1 -- Given the size of the stakes, the quality of (most) the opposition, the TV/endorsement pressure to not be nitty, and the few amateurs you will want to play big pots with in a short period of time, if there's a time to swap, this would be it. 2 -- If you are heads up with someone you have swapped, say, 25% with, you will play more LAG against that person. 3 -- LAG is good for the show, good for your popularity, and good for your image at your normal game. 4 -- You'll still care about losing a big pot to someone, even if you own 25% of them, because you will still lose money. You will simply have your losses cut, from say, $100,000 to $75,000. Therefore, your reactions will be "real." 5 -- HSP may take an official stance against percentage swapping, but it may be weakly enforced. The players have an incentive to do it, and HSP has an incentive to "look the other way" because of the great fireworks swapping can produce. On the other hand, HSP has an incentive for fans to believe this stuff is not prevalent, so they will want to deny it. So if all these side deals are going on, is this bad for us? The up side is that a lot of action will be produced, which is fun to watch. The down side is that the educational value for us will be reduced because the players on HSP will be making moves based on calculations that most of us won't normally need to make when we play.
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#66
11-10-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
From my experience, swapping percentages is for tournaments; in cash games the people I hang with have always just done 50/50 splits. Although, probably comparing apples and peaches.
I am pretty sure that I referenced this before but it might not have been here. The majority of the players are not playing on their "own" money. In some instances the Bellagio and I am sure other rooms have put up cash in exchange for face time in the hotel/casino. This is a friggin T.V. show. It is produced...
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#67
11-10-2007, 08:47 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
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scotty is not trustworthy, he is a friend of Men the master. [/ QUOTE ]
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#68
11-10-2007, 08:53 PM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
i heard scotty nyugen is fake. apparently hes a myth fabricated by the american government to give the impression communists are all degenerates who have come to steal your gambool and your wife.
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#69
11-11-2007, 03:51 AM
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Re: Scotty Nguyen says High Stakes Poker is fake? (x-post from t.v.)
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3) The game may be -ev as it is surly not the easieast game in town... but since the players get an appearance fee the game may be breakeven, or even +ev for some... This factor ways in some, but i dont see how it would constitute the game being "fake"... [/ QUOTE ]nice level
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