1/2 - AA, big pot, lots of action.

Landonfan · #1 08-02-2007, 10:07 PM

Can I fold this at any point? Or am I missing value by not raising the turn/river?

UTG+1 - 25/16/2.6
MP2 - 20/8/1.2

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, CO folds, Hero caps, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (13.5SB, 3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12.75BB, 3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (15.75BB, 3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 18.75BB

CrMenace · #2 08-02-2007, 10:49 PM

Raise the turn at least once. These guys are showing strength preflop, indicating that only TT has you in trouble (Plus QQ on the turn LDO).

Nick D · #3 08-03-2007, 12:08 AM

They may have a set on the flop, but they may also only have AT. IMO, I'd say you played it well.. No way should you fold, but you may be behind with such heavy betting on the flop.

How many hands are these stats good for?

Shillx · #4 08-03-2007, 02:39 AM

It should be pretty easy to put them on worse hands. UTG+1 might have turned a set but you gotta raise 4th street imo.

Sykes · #5 08-03-2007, 04:02 AM

For those adovcating a raise on 4th..

why?

UTG has bet/capped the flop and lead the turn. It wouldn't surprise me if utg has TT considering we defined our hand so clearly.

Honestly best play is to call down and see a showdown as cheap as possible (and hope UTG+1 has KK).

Buzz-cp · #6 08-03-2007, 04:09 AM

UTG's pfr / AF is high enough to make me want to put at least one more raise in on the turn, never folding.

Xhad · #7 08-03-2007, 05:01 AM

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For those adovcating a raise on 4th..

why?

UTG has bet/capped the flop and lead the turn. It wouldn't surprise me if utg has TT considering we defined our hand so clearly.

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Sample sizes would help but UTG is the type to overplay his hands; he shouldn't have worse than KK here ever if he was playing right but it wouldn't be out of the question for him to show up with AT. The caller almost never has a better hand once he calls 4th.

NIX · #8 08-03-2007, 12:25 PM

I like a turn raise.

No way I want to fold this hand for 1BB at any point though.

Sushiglutton · #9 08-03-2007, 01:23 PM

No way u can fold. When UTG+1 caps the flop we must put him on a big PP AA-TT and JJ is unlikely. The turn is not a good card for us. We now only beat KK and maybe JJ. I like to play passive here.

Reaction · #10 08-03-2007, 01:28 PM

For those advocating a raise on 4th.. Also

How often are we losing MP2(20/8/1.2) with a turn raise?

After a 3-B, are you calling a river bet?