PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

[HighSteaks]

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I datamine a fair few hands and use the "don't store the actual hand history option". It would be nice for users who use this option to be able to "trim" their observed hand db. For example, you could have an option along the lines of "delete all observed hand statistics for any one player over and above 2000 hands. This would insure that the stats on all players are recent and allow a far more complete db overall.

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The problem with this though is that individual hands affect everybody who was at the table. Say you have player x with 2k hands and you only want to keep the most recent 2k hands. If somebody at the table has less than 2k hands do you delete their hands as well? I might be missing something but I thought that was the reason why you can't do that currently with PT.

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But they are hands where the hand history is not kept, so the stats are just individual stats that exist for each player seperately without the hand history once the hand has been processed and deleted- so these statistics don't exist in relation to any other player.

[Self Made]

My suggestion for PT/Pahud: add a better postflop looseness measure. It should be simple like the preflop looseness measure VPIP.

[APerfect10]

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My suggestion for PT/Pahud: add a better postflop looseness measure. It should be simple like the preflop looseness measure VPIP.

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Have you checked out PAH's Aggression Frequency? This is a much nicer and easier to deal with number then Aggression Factor. PT3 will most definitely contain Aggression Frequency as well as any other stat currently available in PAH but not in PT.

[Self Made]

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Have you checked out PAH's Aggression Frequency? This is a much nicer and easier to deal with number then Aggression Factor. PT3 will most definitely contain Aggression Frequency as well as any other stat currently available in PAH but not in PT.

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Yes, I have always used Aggression Frequency and I agree that it's better than PT's Aggression Factor. The preflop agression and looseness measures are fine, as is PAHUD's postflop aggression measure. A good, simple postflop looseness measure is what's needed. I suggest simply the percent of the time that a player calls bets postflop.

[downrange]

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Never knew that was there. Unfortunately there isn't support for FTP yet. I guess this is because the notes aren't saved in a simple format. However, I know they can be found in the [username].dat file in the FTP folder. I wonder if some of the code can be deciphered so that it would be able to be imported?

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That's right about ftp. But I heard somebody somewhere say half the ftp notes file is on our computer and the other half is on ftp's machines - that sounds kind of screwy but if true ftp support might not be possible.

I did put in a request to support non-text sites somehow because I REALLY rely on my notes and hate for places like ftp I can't change/add to them offline in replayer (or even see them offline for that matter).

[HighSteaks]

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My suggestion for PT/Pahud: add a better postflop looseness measure. It should be simple like the preflop looseness measure VPIP.

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Have you checked out PAH's Aggression Frequency? This is a much nicer and easier to deal with number then Aggression Factor. PT3 will most definitely contain Aggression Frequency as well as any other stat currently available in PAH but not in PT.

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What are the ranges to be aware of with this stat- what % is passive and what is agro- think I prefer the sound of this over agg factor.

[matt42s]

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Why all the perl bashing? Perl still has its place...

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Yes but putting an interpreted language in as middleware in an application where you would like a response before May 2047 isn't the best idea.

[matt42s]

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I datamine a fair few hands and use the "don't store the actual hand history option". It would be nice for users who use this option to be able to "trim" their observed hand db. For example, you could have an option along the lines of "delete all observed hand statistics for any one player over and above 2000 hands. This would insure that the stats on all players are recent and allow a far more complete db overall.

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The problem with this though is that individual hands affect everybody who was at the table. Say you have player x with 2k hands and you only want to keep the most recent 2k hands. If somebody at the table has less than 2k hands do you delete their hands as well? I might be missing something but I thought that was the reason why you can't do that currently with PT.

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But they are hands where the hand history is not kept, so the stats are just individual stats that exist for each player seperately without the hand history once the hand has been processed and deleted- so these statistics don't exist in relation to any other player.

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You're referring to stats and the db as if they are the same thing, PT stores a lot more than just stats. Take a look at the player_winnings table and you'll see that the hand does relate to every other player.
To ensure that all STATS are recent, PAHud needs a filter which is more granular/flexible than 'Show Stats from the Last X Hands Only'

[DrewOnTilt]

Josh, Pat, et all -

First off, I love PT, and want you to know that you have my upmost thanks for your hard work. I have always received good support from you guys.

My comments -

First: Speed. It has already been mentioned, but I'll reiterate it. Imports are just too slow.

Second: Have you considered revamping your business model to include one or more team members who are dedicated full-time to developing the next major release of the product? I bought PT around 4 years ago, and today it is still version 2.xxxxx That is an AWFULLY long time to pass between major releases.

It seems to me that the PT team spends most of its time fixing bugs, helping out with technical issues, and developing minor upgrades. While these items are certainly important, it is also important to understand that system development is a process and not just a one-time event.

Many others have suggested a small recurring subscription or license fee. I think that such a fee could be used to fund a full-time person dedicated to developing the next major release of the software. Most users would probably not object to this.

[PartyScout]

Hi Josh,

First of all i would like to thank Pat and his team and yourself and all your team.PT+PAHUD is very good software and you both give good support.Haters plz dont post unless you have and constuctive critisims or suggestions for future delopment you wasting everyones time.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but in PT i would like to view all of my monthly winnings not just cash game winnings or tornament winnings.Players buy this software for ease of tracking.We should not have to open up 2 databases to see results of both cash and tornament play.Maybe have the tottall winnings from cash/tornaments on the tool bar at the top of poker tracker on the main lobby window before the databases our open.Any thoughts on this small simple idea....?

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