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Old 07-05-2007, 10:06 AM
Xexilla Xexilla is offline
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Default To value bet or not to value bet....

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $204.40
UTG: $112.15
CO: $45.85
BTN: $101.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, CO folds, SB calls $3.00

Turn: ($11) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, SB calls $7.00

River: ($25) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks

Pot Size: $25.00

To value bet or not to value bet?? Straight draws and flush draws have hit the river... He seems to be a decent player so I fear he may raise suspecting a value bet.

Is it just standard to bet/fold here?

What hand calls me? 2 pair maybe... Thoughts welcome and wanted please :P
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

?!?!?! valuebet _all_ day long. any freakin aces calls you here, happily.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

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?!?!?! valuebet _all_ day long. any freakin aces calls you here, happily.

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I guess he raises me on the turn with 87 because of the flush draw or if I had 34.... so I figured him for a flush draw wasn't sure what hand calls a bet maybe A5 A6
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

the thing here is, you have the best hand like ALLWAYS. so its not about you only get called by better and fold out everything else. just valuebet.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

villian's stack size makes this awkward, but I just feel we lose out on value in the long run if we check behind here.

I don't think the problem is 'what hands call?' as at $100nl you really need to take people to value town as they call with a wide range here.

I'd bet $15 and fold to a shove as i think he only shoves a flush. But his range of hands is far wider than a flush that I expect u get looked up by any 6, 77, 88, weak two pairs, aces up, and possibly even weaker.

edit: bloody hell, any ace looks you up here too.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

also remember if they have top pair on the flop, they will go all the way with it regardless of how the board changes, from my experience.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

but importantly, if you do get check raised, you have to fold. but u get check raised so rarely in this spot that you have to value bet.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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but importantly, if you do get check raised, you have to fold. but u get check raised so rarely in this spot that you have to value bet.

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Appreciate your thoughts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] makes alot of sense I felt when I checked behind (which I did) It was a mistake.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: To value bet or not to value bet....

Villain won't check a flush or a straight here, you have to bet. Bet/fold 19
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:37 AM
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no straight draws have bit, 34 is already there
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