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Old 10-05-2007, 01:24 PM
magicmcq magicmcq is offline
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Default 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

Hi, I am posting this hand for a friend. Post follows:

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I'm in the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Two limpers to me; I
raise. The button cold calls, the blinds both fold, and the limpers call so it's 4 to the flop for 9 1/2
small bets with me acting next to last.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Check from the first limper, bet from the second limper. I raised (Is this correct?).... The button cold calls again. The first limper folds and the second limper who led out folds.

Now it's 7.25
big bets to the turn with me acting first.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, the button raises.... I just called (This is the key decision
where I'm really not sure if I did the right thing).... It's now 11.25
big bets to the river.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, the button checks.

Questions:

1) I raised the second limper after he weak led on the flop.... is this
ok or shold I just be calling?

2) When I get raised on the turn heads up by the button with the board
of Ah Qh 2d Ks, is just calling correct, or should I have three bet him
there?

3) What do you think he may have had? I thought AceJack through
AceEight possibly.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:41 PM
colonpowell colonpowell is offline
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

I haven't played in a long time, but I'm trying to get back into it, so here goes. I'm assuming 3/6 online players are still decent.

Turn raise could mean KQs or A2s, which you beat, but also unfortunately AK TJs 22 (one of these you were scared of it seems). Seems ok to call and check call the river, since you don't really want to be raised there and if he has KQ/AJ he may bet for value anyway. The river 2 makes A2 and 22 less likely.

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Old 10-05-2007, 02:04 PM
One Outer One Outer is offline
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

Hmmpf. That is a little weird. My first instinct is that this is a passive player w/ an AK, another AQ or KQ. It almost has to be KQ right, after the river check?

But we don't know that on the turn. A read on button would help. It he passive at all? Against an unknown I think it's close but I'd probably threebang the turn. If we assign his range AK, AQ, KQ, 22, K2s, A2, we're beating most of that, but barely. If he is known to be passive, however, I like the call down but it's still close.

River check is so weird. That is almost always going to be KQ.
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:03 PM
Scarmiglio Scarmiglio is offline
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

I think the vast majority of 3/6 online players would have 3-banged AK preflop. You also would have heard more from him on the flop. I think he has KQ a lot here. That being said, 3-bet the turn. I like the raise on the flop, but calling and raising a 'safe' turn isn't horrible either.
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

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River: 2

I check, the button checks.


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I just noticed that posting this may screw up the analysis for the rest of the hand. This hand is primarily about turn play, and when you post this river and the betting you're revealing too much. Since we're mostly talking about the turn play I think you should only post the action up to the turn. The responses below would be better for it, IMO.
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:19 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

theres only two hands that you're behind: JT and 22.

you are a ahead of a lot of two pair hands, semi-bluffs, AT, etc.

not to mention that online players love to fsdr.

i 3 bet the turn. if he caps that sucks but you have to call down.
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: 3-6 Limit Online: Top two pair with strange turn resistance

If you say so. I don't play online, so I can only go from what I see live. In retrospect, I did know that about online 3/6 and the AK; good call.
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