Fold QQ as an over pair on the flop or am i just a nit

kaz2107 · #1 10-22-2006, 05:15 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($53.35)
MP ($24.25)
Button ($49.45)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($47.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $47.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $59

Reads and thoughts....
No reads on villian. he just sat down.

my thinking is his push rnge there from an unknown seems like it would b pretty narrow and this is one of the situations that a fold is best without a read. n e arguments for a call here?

bsheck · #2 10-22-2006, 05:22 PM

I agree with a fold. This is a set a lot of the time and you're only getting 3:2, so you can get away from it.

SavageMiser · #3 10-22-2006, 05:24 PM

Without a read, I'm folding. If villian is a true push monkey you'll get the money soon enough.

Shaddux · #4 10-22-2006, 05:27 PM

Fold.

Art Vandalay · #5 10-22-2006, 05:28 PM

Looks like a set to me. Lay it down without any reads.

Acein8ter · #6 10-22-2006, 08:08 PM

Yep, good laydown. He hit his set of 7's or 8's. Too bad a Q didn't fall on the flop...

pokerchap · #7 10-22-2006, 08:10 PM

is KK or AA likely here?

kaz2107 · #8 10-22-2006, 11:22 PM

i figure those are also sorta likely which was the decidng factor. i prolly call with AA since i am now ahead of those. seem ok?

Sir Winalot · #9 10-23-2006, 02:45 AM

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i figure those are also sorta likely which was the decidng factor. i prolly call with AA since i am now ahead of those. seem ok?

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I like your fold. AA I probably call too, though I'd like it more if the flop was a little drawier.

AZplaya · #10 10-23-2006, 03:17 AM

I honestley don't see the diff between AA and QQ here. I think this is a set, I prob fold AA here as well.