AK vs a reraise (concept)

[scorer]

I have to share this hand with you from john juanda 25/50 nl blinds. John the pro is the bb. No limpers to the cutoff who raises 175, no callers to john who re raises to 515. the cutoff re raises to 1350..me the dummy says this guy has aces. We are not done yet, john the pro raises 4 bets to 4100..well the cutoff was short stacked and called that and was all in preflop. 6000 to the pot, i was correct that the cutoff had aces to john juandas A/K suited..so clearly he was dominated and he did lose. I think we value that hand too much and go to far with them.

[cts]

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I have to share this hand with you from john juanda 25/50 nl blinds. John the pro is the bb. No limpers to the cutoff who raises 175, no callers to john who re raises to 515. the cutoff re raises to 1350..me the dummy says this guy has aces. We are not done yet, john the pro raises 4 bets to 4100..well the cutoff was short stacked and called that and was all in preflop. 6000 to the pot, i was correct that the cutoff had aces to john juandas A/K suited..so clearly he was dominated and he did lose. I think we value that hand too much and go to far with them.

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lol wtf

[DJ Sensei]

The correct answer to this question depends ENTIRELY on SB's 3-betting range. fold, call, and reraise all are valid depending on the particular villan and situation.

(and what position hero is in, be prepared to play it stronger from the button as SB is likely restealing lighter)

I must say that in the MSNL games i've played lately, folding is rarely correct due to the prevalence of light 3-betting.

[TheWorstPlayer]

bad table/seat selection. fold is usually correct at 5/10 and below if you don't sit in awful games.

[ddubois]

I'm up way more than I should be given my awful play so far in 2/4, but AK is a huge loser (down over $1k) for me. I have no clue how to play this hand. In donkamanets it's awesome because you can get all in against A9-AQ (or even A2), but I haven't once seen AK get allin ahead since I've been playing 2/4NL. Playing AK is either much more complicated than I would have thought, or much simplier than I would have thought. I'm bookmarking this thread.

[TheWorstPlayer]

you will make most of your money with AK by smooth calling raises in position.

[octop]

The answer is it depends on your opponent
Against players hwo are tight but either reraise to little or we have deep enough stack I would much rather have 910s or 88 than AK. Agsint players who reraise me a lot then were going to the felt. Ofcourse Id much rather it suited, but being hard to get dealt AKs shouldnt be the only reason you play it. You realize its as hard to get dealt as 92s or anyother suited crap.

[maca9]

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you will make most of your money with AK by smooth calling raises in position.

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Sounds like great advice.

[tozzy]

might be that im playing vs awful lagtard regulars but AK in a steal situation is the nuts. ppl get it in with AJs, TT and stuff like this. Also, wtf is our 4betting range then? KK+?
i still hope everyone is leveling here
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I must say that in the MSNL games i've played lately, folding is rarely correct due to the prevalence of light 3-betting.

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QFMT

[MDMA]

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