(Low content) HH against Jennifer Harmon

[howzit]

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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8 A J T
SB raises, Hero calls (3:1).

Flop: Q 9 K (3SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets, Hero calls (4:1).

Turn: 2 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 6 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

this one: i prefer check/call river. you only gonna get called by a baby flush.

[howzit]

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Stack sizes:
Hero: $1896.50
BB: $2097.50

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with K T A K
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: J 5 J (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls (6:1).

Turn: 7 (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (4.5:1).

River: 3 (5.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.5BB


something to think about: i get c/r'ed a lot on these high paired boards when i preflop raise. i think you can counter by 3 betting the flop and then bet turn, if you get c/r'ed again i would confidently fold.

your line is straightforward. 3 betting makes you very tough to play OOP. just an idea.

[howzit]

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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 2 6 K Q
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: T 9 J (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J (1.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (2.5:1).

River: 6 (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB


wow.

[Shabamabam]

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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 2 6 K Q
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: T 9 J (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J (1.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (2.5:1).

River: 6 (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB


wow.

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I absolutely LOVED this hand. At first glance, without seeing any history, it looks completely unusual.

What made me take this line was this hand earlier in the session.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

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Stack sizes:
Hero: $2020.50
BB: $1972

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 8 J 2 7
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: 9 Q T (3SB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (4:1).

Turn: 8 (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

She was OOP, and led on that board. She then led the turn pretty quickly and then gave up when the most obvious draw card hit. What this doesn't show is timing, which gives me information, but I don't wanna elaborate on that.

In this hand, I think she either has two pair or nothing. If she had two pair she's leading out cuz the board is scary and she doesn't want draws to get there.

Translate that hand over to here. From the past hands, if I had missed on these type of hands, I'd usually just give up, so again if she had two pair it would make sense for her to lead.

But she doesn't. She checks, I check behind.

Now obviously the turn card changes how I was going to proceed with the hand and now I have to improvise.

She leads, not too quick, but a nice thinking lead. Now I don't put her on a full house already (reasons from before), so I can do two things: call or raise.

If I raise, It's harder for Villain to continue if she has a draw.

If I call, she can continue with her draw (if she has one), and get priced in if she hits river or even throw in a bluff (as my hand looks pretty weak) if she misses.

If she has a jack, she's not going anywhere. By calling it keeps the pot small and I can decide what to do on the river. Raising if she has a jack gives her implied odds because I'm probably gonna bet any river and would hate a c/r.

Also if she has a hand like QQ+, it's easier for her to pay off if I just flat call there.

The river was a safe card in my mind, especially given the timing of her bet, so I decide to raise for value.

[Shabamabam]

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Full Tilt Poker
Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Limit: $50/$100
2 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $1896.50
BB: $2097.50

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with K T A K
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: J 5 J (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls (6:1).

Turn: 7 (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (4.5:1).

River: 3 (5.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.5BB


something to think about: i get c/r'ed a lot on these high paired boards when i preflop raise. i think you can counter by 3 betting the flop and then bet turn, if you get c/r'ed again i would confidently fold.

your line is straightforward. 3 betting makes you very tough to play OOP. just an idea.

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Again, I mix this line up a lot, and you really have to.

This was one of the first times that villain has c/red me.

First, we have to consider the board. It's J J 5 rainbow.
What could she be c/ring there with? I'm either way ahead or am severely crushed.

If this is the case, the best thing to do is flat call. Especially when there's a backdoor low that can get very messy on the turn (there's a lot of cards on the turn that even if we are winning, we won't be winning by much anymore).

Couple that with the fact that we use pot control and get to SEE how she handles this situation from time, I think it's a call in this particular situation.

The only thing that I contemplated about was whether or not to value bet the river.

[Shabamabam]

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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8 A J T
SB raises, Hero calls (3:1).

Flop: Q 9 K (3SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets, Hero calls (4:1).

Turn: 2 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 6 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

this one: i prefer check/call river. you only gonna get called by a baby flush.

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Bleh. I hate check/call here. If Villain has a baby flush, 1 bet is going in no matter what. I check, Villain bets, I call.

Anything else she checks behind (not a good spot at all imo to bluff and won't expect villain to do it unless retarded), but there's still a slight chance that she'll call with a set or even make a curious call with two pair.

Considering all options, it's a must-bet every time.

[howzit]

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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8 A J T
SB raises, Hero calls (3:1).

Flop: Q 9 K (3SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets, Hero calls (4:1).

Turn: 2 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 6 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

this one: i prefer check/call river. you only gonna get called by a baby flush.

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Bleh. I hate check/call here. If Villain has a baby flush, 1 bet is going in no matter what. I check, Villain bets, I call.

Anything else she checks behind (not a good spot at all imo to bluff and won't expect villain to do it unless retarded), but there's still a slight chance that she'll call with a set or even make a curious call with two pair.

Considering all options, it's a must-bet every time.

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you're right.

[donger]

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Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
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Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8 A J T
SB raises, Hero calls (3:1).

Flop: Q 9 K (3SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets, Hero calls (4:1).

Turn: 2 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 6 (2.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

this one: i prefer check/call river. you only gonna get called by a baby flush.

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O RLY? This might be true if it went B/C B/C on the flop and turn, but the turn checkthrough means that she's probably willing to snap a river bluff with less than a straight. I think cking here gives up a ton of value and lets her play perfectly against us.

[donger]

Also, I'm going to post the next semi-intersting HU match I play here too. I think threads like this one are sorely needed in this forum.

[HajiShirazu]

If by LC you mean most content in just about any forum then yeah, LC is the new HC.