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11-21-2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: i float possible tilty guy and hit, what\'s my river plan here
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wtf are you doin on the flop? either 3bet-shove or just fold to the raise. calling oop with A-high, no draw, is terrible in that spot [/ QUOTE ] You think he is gonna keep firing bullets and bullets every single time? I'm calling in position with what is often the best hand, to re-evaluate the turn, where I can fold or make a move, etc. I think 3bet shove here is pretty insanely bad. Oh I see you wrote OOP... I am not OOP, he is. That's a very big diff here. 
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11-21-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: i float possible tilty guy and hit, what\'s my river plan here
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You think he is gonna keep firing bullets and bullets every single time? I'm calling in position with what is often the best hand, to re-evaluate the turn, where I can fold or make a move, etc. I think 3bet shove here is pretty insanely bad. Oh I see you wrote OOP... I am not OOP, he is. That's a very big diff here. [/ QUOTE ] ya i thouggt you were OOP, but still the flop is pretty f'in ugly. youre hand isnt "often" best i dont think, and if you think hes fos then shove i hate calling becasue you only hit on the turn 6/47 times so < 13% of the time, and hes almsot always firing at any turn if you call the flop. also sometimes you get stacked when you do hit one of your "outs" becasue villain may have a set, or hit a a flush, or hit AX 2 pair, etc etc
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11-21-2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: i float possible tilty guy and hit, what\'s my river plan here
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[ QUOTE ] You think he is gonna keep firing bullets and bullets every single time? I'm calling in position with what is often the best hand, to re-evaluate the turn, where I can fold or make a move, etc. I think 3bet shove here is pretty insanely bad. Oh I see you wrote OOP... I am not OOP, he is. That's a very big diff here. [/ QUOTE ] ya i thouggt you were OOP, but still the flop is pretty f'in ugly. youre hand isnt "often" best i dont think, and if you think hes fos then shove i hate calling becasue you only hit on the turn 6/47 times so < 13% of the time, and hes almsot always firing at any turn if you call the flop. also sometimes you get stacked when you do hit one of your "outs" becasue villain may have a set, or hit a a flush, or hit AX 2 pair, etc etc [/ QUOTE ] I think shoving this flop is way too drastic, we're too deep and it lets him play perfectly. If the pot was 3bet preflop or something it's different, but a shove or committing raise would be crazy oversized here. I also disagree that he's firing every turn here, if I thought he was, then yeah I fold easily. Oh and my "often best" specifially applies because my read is this guy is looking to play back at me and thinks I am FOS.
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11-22-2007, 12:11 AM
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Re: i float possible tilty guy and hit, what\'s my river plan here
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i have a feeling asking for advice, an then actually thinking about that advice critically, is not one of your strong points [/ QUOTE ] I feel like I did think about it critically, and then I replied to it dude. I definitely think I am getting advice that's not related to my question, ie. what do I do on this specific river. People saying "fold flop" everytime a weird card hits on the river or "this is terrible, dont call this OOP this is horrible" who didn't even read the hand through properly... how many hours do you think I need to pore over that advice.
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