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J-P · #**1711** 11-23-2007, 01:47 AM

hey u guys wally world has a 42" polaroid lcd 1080p (lol polaroid makes tvs?) for 800 bucks that i'm really considering getting but would it just be better to shell out the extra 300-400 for an actual bigger name brand set?

bones · #**1712** 11-23-2007, 01:51 AM

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Lacky,
I agree with that. It's also fun too look at old posts you made and see how much you have improved. I would add Jman to a list of posters for that.

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yeah, i was very hesitent to name any names. for a month i will be thinking of names it was stupid not to have in that list. that said, somebody HAS to find and bump the stab yer freind and ice cream cone posts. I havent seen em in long enough they will be new to the current crop. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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It's almost like you weren't in attendance at the toughest sng of all-time.

Pasterbator · #**1713** 11-23-2007, 01:55 AM

devin,

good post. i feel the exact same way. dont feel bad asking for advice, as long as you're willing to talk out your thoughts. dont just come to me asking for an answer or i will likely stop responding to your ims.

cakewalk · #**1714** 11-23-2007, 03:04 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($104.10)
SB ($154.55)
BB ($103.20)
UTG ($105.50)
Hero ($175.65)
CO ($50.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($11.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $21, Hero raises to $134, UTG calls $72.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $212.50

Results in white below: 
UTG has Jc Js (full house, jacks full of eights).
Hero has 7h 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: UTG wins $212.50. Hero wins $40.50. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($110.65)
UTG ($153.20)
Hero ($100.50)
Button ($90)
SB ($206.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($16.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero raises to $36, BB raises to $102.65, Hero calls $56.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $201.50

Results in white below: 
BB has 6h 6s (full house, sixes full of jacks).
Hero has Jd Ad (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: BB wins $211.65. 

are these coolers or am i sucking? my sanity is pending

slimon · #**1715** 11-23-2007, 03:05 AM

I tried Gelfords uber nit thing for cash it didn't work out! I couldn't play that nitty at all. I didn't feel right folding AJs utg or mp.

lennie257 · #**1716** 11-23-2007, 03:17 AM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($104.10)
SB ($154.55)
BB ($103.20)
UTG ($105.50)
Hero ($175.65)
CO ($50.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($11.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $21, Hero raises to $134, UTG calls $72.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $212.50

Results in white below: 
UTG has Jc Js (full house, jacks full of eights).
Hero has 7h 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: UTG wins $212.50. Hero wins $40.50. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($110.65)
UTG ($153.20)
Hero ($100.50)
Button ($90)
SB ($206.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($16.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero raises to $36, BB raises to $102.65, Hero calls $56.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $201.50

Results in white below: 
BB has 6h 6s (full house, sixes full of jacks).
Hero has Jd Ad (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: BB wins $211.65. 

are these coolers or am i sucking

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Hand one: difficult. You are beating the majority of his range for betting the river, and if I were in this hand I would probably put him on KQ. Unlucky.

Hand two: bad. I don't understand why you would check the flop. If you're going to raise AJs from MP which is marginal, you have to bet this flop. Your river value raise is fine, but once he pushes it's a fold. There's nothing you can beat here, he's not shoving with AQ here.

cakewalk · #**1717** 11-23-2007, 03:22 AM

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Hand two: bad. I don't understand why you would check the flop. If you're going to raise AJs from MP which is marginal, you have to bet this flop. Your river value raise is fine, but once he pushes it's a fold. There's nothing you can beat here, he's not shoving with AQ here.

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the check was to induce bluffs, i thought w/ the jack on the river he's shoving worse jacks and that would make it raise/call instead of raise/fold

lennie257 · #**1718** 11-23-2007, 03:44 AM

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Hand two: bad. I don't understand why you would check the flop. If you're going to raise AJs from MP which is marginal, you have to bet this flop. Your river value raise is fine, but once he pushes it's a fold. There's nothing you can beat here, he's not shoving with AQ here.

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the check was to induce bluffs, i thought w/ the jack on the river he's shoving worse jacks and that would make it raise/call instead of raise/fold

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Hmm maybe it's more marginal than I thought. The only jacks that might call your raise are KJ, JT and occasionally J9. There is also a very small chance that he's slowplayed AA or KK into oblivion, but I would say not moe than 5% in this hand. On the other side, there's 33, QQ, QJ, 66, which are more likely to flat call the PF raise. I still think a call in this situation is -EV but it's a lot tougher than I thought on first glance.

cakewalk · #**1719** 11-23-2007, 03:47 AM

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Hand two: bad. I don't understand why you would check the flop. If you're going to raise AJs from MP which is marginal, you have to bet this flop. Your river value raise is fine, but once he pushes it's a fold. There's nothing you can beat here, he's not shoving with AQ here.

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the check was to induce bluffs, i thought w/ the jack on the river he's shoving worse jacks and that would make it raise/call instead of raise/fold

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Hmm maybe it's more marginal than I thought. The only jacks that might call your raise are KJ, JT and occasionally J9. There is also a very small chance that he's slowplayed AA or KK into oblivion, but I would say not moe than 5% in this hand. On the other side, there's 33, QQ, QJ, 66, which are more likely to flat call the PF raise. I still think a call in this situation is -EV but it's a lot tougher than I thought on first glance.

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ok now im just complaining..villain had a fishy vpip

Eagles · #**1720** 11-23-2007, 04:00 AM

Lennie,
Raising AJs from mp is not marginal in a 6max cash game you should never ever open fold AJs pf.

Bengie,
Hand 1 sometimes bet the flop but your line is fine that's just a cooler
Hand 2, Bet the flop man... there's a ton of value ppl will call with worse. That said I'll def check it some % of the time. Turn call is std obv and so is the river raise but once he shoves your toast. Calling is a pretty big spew. Like unless there's sick metagame if you put in 3bets on the river the guy is going to be pretty nutted.

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