Anyone else like to see more NL SNGs?

[shmergle]

I've encountered various explanations why O8 tmts are almost always PL but none are too convincing. I have two arguments for NL. One is almost nothing is being written about O8 and most writing is about NLHE. At least then you could try to apply the NL part to O8. Another is that NL would attract more fish.

If you've read this far, you probably know that PokerStars has two $1 NLO8 SNGs. I suggest e-mailing them asking them to run NLO8 SNGs in the same variety as PL and FL.

[Omaha8sPoker]

NLPLO8 or NLO: Fish go broke quicker...Don't rock the boat...The player pool is barely enough as is...We don't need the morons to go broke faster

[prodonkey]

no

[BradleyT]

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Well he's talking about SnGs not cash. In the PLo/8 turbos there is a lot of luck involved because blinds rise fast and it becomes more proper for lagtards to play hands when the blinds are high. Add in the fact that hands run pretty close in value compared to NLHE and you have a much lower loss rate for fish in PLo/8 SnGs.

NL whould slightly change this in favor of stronger players but when you only get 60 o/8 hands to choose from, generally luck is a very large factor in the outcome.

[Truthiness24]

No. NL favors luck over skill even more than the PL turbos. Omaha8 started a thread on this a few days ago. The consensus was: because a mediocre player can push preflop, it negates the skill advantage the best players have postflop.

With good card selection, this kind of Kill Phil strategy can be profitable. Predator is one of the best at it, and there are others.

But IMHO, KP isn't real poker anyway.

[Omaha8sPoker]

I wouldn't say it favors luck, per se...But it potentially forces the better players to possibly put their stack on the line on a 50:50 situation where as PL makes you play a hand out and gives the better player an advantage (obviously)...This cuts a better player's advantage a lot more in Omaha 8/b than it does in Hold 'Em because hands tend to run close in value, even after the flop...

[Truthiness24]

That is what I meant. You said it much more artfully than I did.

But isn't that exactly what luck is? You are a skilled player that is being forced into preflop coinflips early when in a more skill-dependent game you might never have to do that, or at the very least you can wait until the end. That isn't useful IMO.

After all, poker can be structured to favor skill or luck depending on who you are trying to attract to a game. NLO8 negates the skill of postflop play, and the only skill that it rewards is the knowledge of what hands you should push with. And it promotes blind donkish aggression. That isn't the kind of poker that I want to play, and it isn't the kind of poker that I think we should promote.

[BooNaNy]

NLO8 are for losers, that like to shoot craps...