Very simple fundamentals

[TheWorstPlayer]

Villain is groinal. He's like a 24/16 TAG. Pretty decent boring TAG.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
TWP: $2203.20
UTG+1: $1221.30
CO: $276
Button: $591
SB: $125.40
BB: $1283.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) TWP is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">TWP raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($78, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">TWP bets $75</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($228, 2 players)
TWP...?

Is this c/f, b/f, or something else? I feel like I should have learned this in poker second grade, but I'm just not positive.

[dtan05]

I don't see how it is a c/f, unless one of them is 1/1/9 over 1532952357 hands. B/f or B/c is standard depending on history, image, etc etc

[TheWorstPlayer]

Sorry, I think you saw the post when I cut it off in the wrong place. I meant on the flush turn. Not on the flop, obviously. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[dtan05]

well if it's a boring TAG, I'd b/f. I don't want another spade / overcard coming, and I think if you c/c you're forced to c again on the river? Has he shown any hand reading abilities? If so, then your turn bet is a bit transparent, and he should be "able" to get you to fold to a raise by repping the flush.

take my advice with a grain of salt, i'm only at 2/4 atm [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[fringsrache]

i really hope u get some good answers bc i am also usually lost in these spots and start c/c hopin for a cheap SD.

[king_of_drafts]

b/f, and groinal is much better than you are giving him credit for

[TheWorstPlayer]

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groinal is much better than you are giving him credit for

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If that's true, I don't like b/f. For instance, I think b/f against me here is pretty bad.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

I think you check, and he probably checks behind... I don't put him on spades here... with posisition and a ragged board, I think he raises you more often than not on this flop.

the river play is where it gets really tricky.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

PS... your bet on the flop and check on the turn could mean you have red JJ, QQ, KK or red AK...

But he also might worry you are trapping him if you just hit the nuts with Ace-beef of spades.

[Scipio]

i think that he holds often 55/66/77/99/TT/78/89 so i would c/c the turn and c/f the River most of the time.
He doesn´t bet the River if he has a worse madehand.
I think the only worse hand that could bet the Turn and the River is 56s.