QQ vs TAG in reraised pot - intersting turn card

[cs3]

<font color="blue"> villain is a multitabling TAG, probaly a 2p2er. he runs 16/14/4 over hundreds of hands. hasnt been very aggro out of the blinds so far, but probably realizes that ive been opening a ton of hands from the CO and button. we havnt tangled much post flop so far, as one of us has either taken down the pot PF or on the flop.
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $111.20
BB: $100.00
UTG: $264.05
MP: $99.75
Hero (CO): $101.50
BTN: $96.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.50) 9 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $17.00</font>, Hero calls $17.00
<font color="blue"> sometimes i raise here but i decided to just call planning to get it on any non-A turn, figuring he would usually bet a blank turn with all of his range.
thoughts? </font>

Turn: ($58.50) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero????

<font color="blue"> hmm interesting turn... his check looks like hes scared of this board considering how aggro hes been so far. but if i shove, is for value vs JJ/AK/AQ/draws, or am i hoping to fold out AA/KK?

also, all pairs 55-TT now beat me BUT they also beat AA and KK (not to mention ANY sc's that i could have called a reraise with)...

so whats the play?</font>

[hellmuth88]

calling preflop is tricky, but when you do that you should definitely raise the flop, especially such a super drawy flop...

[dreamcircus]

Should've reraised preflop. If calling preflop, raise flop. Flop is as bad as it can get for you in terms of undercards working together. You gotta take it down now or make him pay big to see the turn.

[cs3]

ok, lets talk about the turn now.
i realize i couldve played both PF and the flop diffeent, and i often do so.

[dreamcircus]

If you check turn he'd probably bet big or shove the river no matter what and you'd have to fold. If he bets small on river you'd still be afraid even to call let alone raise. Given bets so far you'd have to bet the turn now pretty much.. no choice.. unless you want to give him the pot. 4/5-pot is probably the size, fold to any reraise or call/river bet.

[hellmuth88]

bet/fold the turn...

[cs3]

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bet/fold the turn...

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i have only a psb left
so shove?

[rberg]

grunch

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hmm interesting turn... his check looks like hes scared of this board considering how aggro hes been so far. but if i shove, is for value vs JJ/AK/AQ/draws, or am i hoping to fold out AA/KK?


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Sometimes you need to bet the best hand just to protect it. Considering the action so far he could have nearly anything.
You can get value out of top pair and flush draw hands too.

[truekornfan]

if no rais pf, plz shoove flop.
As played I shoove turn

[sww]

So his range is mostly like 22+ AQ+? AcQc+ AhKh JJ are the only worse hands calling then and I might have shoved with draws after that card. I'm not loving the idea of trying to make him fold KK+ although if you think he gives you respect... I check here and check behind the river too. If he bets the river we may have to fold, although it depends on the size of his bet/range and bluffing frequenzy.