2 oc's plus gut facing 2 in big pot.

Oink · #1 10-27-2007, 09:41 AM

Reads

SB is LAGTAG after 300 hands. He seems quite fishy and makes plays I believe are suboptimal.

CO is 44/12 fish. Not completely passive.

I was torn between all three lines to be honest.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, MP folds, CO raises, Hero???

Leader · #2 10-27-2007, 10:10 AM

I would fold. I don't want to get caught in the middle with tainted outs.

Noodles. · #3 10-27-2007, 10:14 AM

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I would fold. I don't want to get caught in the middle with tainted outs.

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mute · #4 10-27-2007, 10:33 AM

I really think folding is out of the question here. 3 outs for the overcards, 3.5 outs for the gutshot and 1.5 outs for the backdoor flush. Am I being too optimistic?

Against a more passive lineup 3-betting for a freecard might be good, but against these guys I would just call and pray.

Tryptamean · #5 10-27-2007, 12:16 PM

I would call. Yes, it would suck to get caught between soem [censored], but i dont think that happens often enough to get us out right now. In order for you to get [censored] really bad, they BOTH need to have big hands. Even if it goes 3-4 bet on the flop, usually one of them will slow down on the turn.

I think usually you'll get the 7:1 odds you are hoping for to see the turn. 3 out for the overs is too generous tho. Even 1.5-2 outs would make it a call. I dunno it seems close.

Tryptamean · #6 10-27-2007, 12:31 PM

3bettin for a free card would be pretty [censored] dope if it worked. duno if it does often enough, seems spewy

rzk · #7 10-27-2007, 04:57 PM

i actually 3 bet for a free card. it's so much cheaper when it works and i think in this case it should work pretty often.