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Old 11-20-2007, 12:08 AM
manupod manupod is offline
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Default Stupid AK spot on the flop

54/1/2.5 over 200 hands...b/f, c/f, c/c....

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Button ($60.95)
SB ($96)
BB ($217.20)
UTG ($225.40)
MP ($277.80)
Hero ($222.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8,

<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $52.95</font>, Hero ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

b/f usually, c/f sometimes, don't really see a reason to c/c. my default cbet is larger but take that fwiw.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

Is c/c ever ok here? If I'm b/c I'm hoping my 6 outs are live, but they aren't always...and b/f seems really bad. I dunno.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

I bet this flop and when he raises I fold and wait till the same thing happens but i have a pair

oh i am an idiot too ddint see the all in, i still fold i think
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

I'm an idiot, didn't even realize that button was all in, just thought it was a weird raise amount.

I don't know, I hate these spots too.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

if the board had more draws on it, i'd consider a call. since 9T is the only real draw out there, it's likely he has at least 1 pair, so i'd fold.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

easy call stay away from this situations

you don't need to force a situation against these type of players .. and his raise percentage is also low so he could easily have some sort of over pair here

b/f is my line
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

Just fold - this is probably something stupid like 98, but you can't even beat that. There will be better spots to get his stack.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Stupid AK spot on the flop

I bet this flop and when he pushes his small stack all-in I fold and wait till the same thing happens but i have a pair.


i assume a simple equity calc vs villain's range shows that you just have to fold here.
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