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Old 09-22-2006, 09:17 PM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Default Suited Connector Probability Question

It's funny, I've trawled the Net to no avail over this one...so I thought I would turn to the Brain Trust.

1. Whats are the odds of a suited connector hitting a made hand. By made hand I mean two pair (no board pair), trips, striaght, flush and above.

2. Additionally, to 1, what are the odds of making a strong draw. By this I mean either a pair and a draw, straight and flush draw, middle pin and flush draw.

3. Does the nature of the SC make any difference? So is 45s better or worse than QJs? How do gaps effect the thing?

Thanks in advance

GL

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Old 09-23-2006, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Suited Connector Probability Question

Suited Max Stretch Connector (JT-54)
0.84% flop a flush
1.22% flop straight w/o 3-flush board
(1.30% flop any straight)
10.94% flop a four flush
7.21% to flop clean 8-out straight draw (unpaired board, no 3 flush against, no 4 flush for)
1.85% flop clean 2 pair (no 3 flush board)
(2.02% flop any 2 pair)
1.45% flop trips or full house or 4 of a kind
23.51% = 3.25 to 1 against

Suited Max Stretch 1-Gap (QT-53)
0.84% flop a flush
0.92% flop straight w/o 3 flush board
10.94% flop 4 flush
5.29% flop clean 8 out straight draw
1.85% flop clean 2 pair
1.45% flop trips or full house or 4 of a kind
21.29% = 3.70 to 1 against
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Old 09-23-2006, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Suited Connector Probability Question

N1 Binions, but what about what a termed a strong draw, i.e. either a pair and a draw, straight and flush draw, middle pin and flush draw?

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Old 09-24-2006, 08:48 PM
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N1 Binions, but what about what a termed a strong draw, i.e. either a pair and a draw, straight and flush draw, middle pin and flush draw?

cheers

DD

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The 10.94% 4-flush flops includes those times you flop a pair and flush draw or flush draw and straight draw.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Suited Connector Probability Question

Binions, but can you unpick them? Or point me to a tool that can? Reason being this is for NL where flopping an 8-9 out draw is nowhere near as useful as a pair+draw in a raised pot.

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Old 09-25-2006, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Suited Connector Probability Question

Roughly, a suited connector like 78s will hit two pair or better 43% of the time. 22% will be two pair, 21% will be trips or better. 15% you will make a flush or straight.

It will flop two pair or better 8% of the time.

It will flop a a pair 40% of the time.

I dont know about draws. It is roughly the same for the different suited connectors, although obviously the higher the stronger the hand.

These numbers were from Wilson.

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Old 09-25-2006, 11:03 PM
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Binions, but can you unpick them? Or point me to a tool that can? Reason being this is for NL where flopping an 8-9 out draw is nowhere near as useful as a pair+draw in a raised pot.

gl

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I could, but it would be a lot of work and it doesn't really matter.

It's 3.25 to flop a hand you'd want to play for suited 0-gappers, and 3.7:1 for suited 1-gappers.
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