Teach me how to play KK

[scatthecat]

Villain in this hand is a LAG, but he's not an idiot.

I have been playing relatively tight up to this point in the game, so a raise to 15 in EP is indicating a real hand - he certainly knows this.

But I guess my decision was more based on the following: villain has 3-bet PF a couple times already, but in all cases the raise was much smaller - usually just a min-raise or a pop to ~40. I had seen him 3-bet PF OOP and then fold to a 4-bet all-in. Pretty bad play, IMO, as he claimed to have QJs there.

But in this spot, his 3-bet was significantly higher than before - indicating to me that he's be happy to get it in here. It felt like AA, KK, QQ, or AK at the minimum - we can throw in JJ as well to be fair - I was 50/50 about pushing it in PF but decided to call and reevaluate on the flop.

The flop of Q44 was interesting - I was either way behind his AA/QQ here or way ahead of his AK/JJ. He quickly went all-in, with a lot of confidence - and decided to even pick up his hand and flash it to the rest of the table (I was on his immediate right). To me, this represented huge strength- likely AA, b/c I can't see why he would blow me off any hand if he had flopped the boat. I thought for a few minutes, still knowing that my hand could have very possibly been good - and I actually heard one of the players at the far side of the table say 'he's got to be good unless [i] am holding pocket queens' to his neighbor.

Obviously, this sealed the deal, I folded, asked if he'd show, then flipped up the KK (to ooh's and aah's of the table).

Obviously I didn't divulge all of this in the original post - I wanted to show some of the merits of playing live [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

fwiw i turned the 200 dollar freeroll i had left into just over 600 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jk3a]

I fold, but felt most flops

[jk3a]

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and I actually heard one of the players at the far side of the table say 'he's got to be good unless am holding pocket queens' to his neighbor.

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what?

[igetjokes]

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I was 50/50 about pushing it in PF but decided to call and reevaluate on the flop.


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Shoving preflop is always your best option here given your reads.

As played, you call to reevaluate the flop - and get a dream flop. What more do you want? You've got the overpair which is perfect. The only reason you'd check the flop is if you're going to check/push. It's time to get money in the pot pronto.

[Dan Bitel]

[quoteAs played, you call to reevaluate the flop - and get a dream flop.

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how the hell is this a dream flop considering the read is that villain has a big hand preflop????

[igetjokes]

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[quoteAs played, you call to reevaluate the flop - and get a dream flop.

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how the hell is this a dream flop considering the read is that villain has a big hand preflop????

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We already know the villain has a big hand - we don't need to a see a flop to determine that. By calling the 3bet preflop the hero has decided his hand is playable against the villains range. The flop brings 3 undercards, thus his KK becomes even more playable than it was preflop.

In other words, what is the hero hoping for? A-A-X so he can fold??

He decides to play the hand and gets a flop which puts him in great position. Thus, dream flop.

[scatthecat]

Should have been:

I actually heard one of the players at the far side of the table say 'he (villain) has got to be ahead unless he (hero) is holding pocket queens' to his neighbor.