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10-11-2007, 05:27 PM
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Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...ed=rss.bayarea
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Well, I guess I am, I'm very much against it. The issue was being solved privately, condo groups were taking it upon themselves to not allow smoking in their buildings. I don't see the need for the government to step in and say "here is what you can and cannot do in your own home." Is this unconstitutional? I think it is, but I don't know which provision would relate to it. On a related note: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071011/ap_o...1l75akjVV7q188F California bans smoking in a car with minors. I actually agree with this one, not sure there's a way for the private market to fix this, and its essentially child abuse. 
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10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
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California bans smoking in a car with minors. I actually agree with this one, not sure there's a way for the private market to fix this [/ QUOTE ] Well, if roads were privatized then road owners would be able to make whatever rules they wanted. So of course if the government can "fix it" by monopolizing roads and forbidding it on their roads, it should be obvious that private road owners could as well. [ QUOTE ] , and its essentially child abuse. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not quite with you here. What about parents who feed their kids too much junk food? Don't hug them enough? Don't read to them when they're small children? What about smoking at home, is that different than cars? Should we ban smoking in homes with minors? I think legislating against "bad parenting" is too hard. There's just too many factors in play to start picking some out and banning/mandating them.
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10-11-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
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My father smoked when I was growing up--at home, in the car, wherever. Stinky? Yes. Abusive? Give me a break. [/ QUOTE ] Would you feel this way if next time you went to the doctor you had cancer?
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10-12-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
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My father smoked when I was growing up--at home, in the car, wherever. Stinky? Yes. Abusive? Give me a break. [/ QUOTE ] When I was growing up my mother had remarried to a smoker. I am the only person in my family that has asthma. I remember as a child not being able to breath if he drove me anywhere because the car would be full of smoke. I am against government intervention, but I really wish I didn't have asthma.
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10-11-2007, 09:45 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
What about smoking at home, is that different than cars? Should we ban smoking in homes with minors?
Well, it is different. According the article, smoking in cars is 10x more dangerous for children than smoking in homes. But, to answer your question, I wouldn't object to the discussion and consideration of banning smoking in homes with minors. It's an interesting idea and might have some validity, although it'd be difficult to enforce. Edit: And by the way, I'm not anti-tobacco or anything like that, I smoke from time to time, cigars, cigarettes, but I do believe in responsibility.
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10-11-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
my personal experience: as a child both parents smoked a lot, and I could literally not run for 10 seconds without getting winded. starting in high school I did my best to remedy it, wasn't home much , had my own bedroom (windows), 1 parent quit and the other cut back, and I joined cross country and stuff to build up my lungs. I can testify that it really does damage children, at least athletically.
btw, in 8th grade a friend offered me a cigarrette (13, time to be "cool"), and I could inhale right away without coughing or anything my lungs were so used to the smoke. true story.
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10-11-2007, 11:11 PM
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Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos
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[ QUOTE ] Second hand smoking is even more dangerous than first hand, [/ QUOTE ] how can this be true? [/ QUOTE ] I'll admit I only know what I've read/been told, but second hand smoke is unfiltered, ergo, more dangerous.
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