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Old 08-31-2007, 03:19 PM
RollTideTyler RollTideTyler is offline
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YOU are not being screwed over. The expectation is that those taking the class will be buying the textbook, which is why you receive a special certification for that text.

The professor is giving the "non-certification seeking" students a BREAK by telling them that they won't need the book to perform well on her tests.

I think if you look at it from the correct perspective, you'll feel better about the purchase.

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i see what you are saying...but i still cant help but feel that its the students that are being exploited. the book will not be used at all, why cant we just buy the scantron seperate?

ill admit that there are valid arguements for this not being so bad because i get a special certification that will look good on a resume, but my anger is more directed at the book system in general, and this instance just makes it stand out more.

The publishers and the book stores are in a constant stuggle back and forth. Book stores gain profit by selling a book for 100 bucks, buying it back for like 30, then reselling next year used for 75. So in theory they are making money each year without having to purchase any new inventory.

The publisher says that sucks, because they arent selling as many books, so they release new editions that arent really new at all.

Who gets screwed? the students. hard to argue the fact that i mentioned in my op, student book prices rising at a rate of 4x inflation since 1994.

translation: whine whine bitch bitch life isnt fair etc
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:44 PM
CocoaKrispies CocoaKrispies is offline
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Cliff Notes:

Ethics Question: Is stealing unethical?

Answer: Yes.

End of Discussion.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:48 PM
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you need to clarify some things. are you telling me your teacher is saying that majors have to take this test thing to pass the class?

also college textbooks are a lot different than they were in 94 so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison... blame the lazy teachers
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:49 PM
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A hospitality degree from 'Bama? Really?
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:52 PM
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I'd be sure to find a spot to ask the prof how much he's being kicked back for his part in this travesty. Special red Scantron my ass. The [censored]'s so special about it.

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A free textbook. That's all a professor gets from publishers.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:57 PM
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A hospitality degree from 'Bama? Really?

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Get your nose in the air a little higher, Vandy.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:58 PM
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A hospitality degree from 'Bama? Really?

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yea, was a marketing major till i decided that sucked and i wanted to get into the Casino/Resort industry. whats your point?
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:58 PM
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Sounds like the certification costs $100 and comes with a worthless free textbook. What's so unusual about a certification test costing money? Someone has to write the test and administer it. If the textbook actually has value on its own, sell it on ebay.

People pay $100 or more for pieces of paper all the time. Ask anyone who's been to an NFL or NHL game lately. The value is in what the paper represents or allows you to do, not the physical paper itself.

Stealing is wrong, and lawyers/court costs/lost future earnings make it -EV.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:46 PM
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Campus bookstores at the schools I've attended allow you to return hardcover books for the first 2 weeks as long as you don't screw the book up. Buy the book, carefully remove whatever page you need with an exacto knife so that it looks like it was never there. Return immediately for full refund. If this is too complicated, watch The Sting with Robert Redford. Great movie and I'm sure it will inspire something useful.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:48 PM
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Campus bookstores at the schools I've attended allow you to return hardcover books for the first 2 weeks as long as you don't screw the book up. Buy the book, carefully remove whatever page you need with an exacto knife so that it looks like it was never there. Return immediately for full refund. If this is too complicated, watch The Sting with Robert Redford. Great movie and I'm sure it will inspire something useful.

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first thing i thought off...unfortunatly there is a big notice on the outside cover of the book, where the bar code is that reads "book nonreturnable without scantron"
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