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11-29-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
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I don't care about EV, I'm talking about dealer accountability. In this poker room, tips are pooled, so motivation for the dealers to do well is lacking. Should they not be punished in some way for their ineptitude? [/ QUOTE ] Not really. It was an honest mistake, and a 0 EV one. Are you perfect at your job? What you call "ineptitude" is not what I call it. If this dealer constantly makes mistakes then he should be fired. Otherwise, it's just another day. I do agree that pooling tips is a very bad idea though. 
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11-28-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
What are you going to do 29 weeks from now when a dealer makes a mistake that results in you winning an $1,800 pot you would have otherwise lost? Tip the whole thing back?
-McGee
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11-28-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
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Perhaps I'm being childish [/ QUOTE ] yes, i agree. PS: This is the type of tip[ping thread which we wont allow. Your free to make your own decisions here, its not cool to ask B&m their opinion if you already decided not to tip.
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11-28-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
It doesn't really matter, but I want a clarification:
Did the card that was exposed cause the player to make a different decision losing you the pot, or was it a suck out card that would have made you win at showdown?
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#7
11-28-2007, 08:08 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
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[ QUOTE ] Perhaps I'm being childish [/ QUOTE ] yes, i agree. PS: This is the type of tip[ping thread which we wont allow. Your free to make your own decisions here, its not cool to ask B&m their opinion if you already decided not to tip. [/ QUOTE ] woops, I forgot to lock it before. Oh well, too late. thread lives!
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#8
11-28-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
Negligence action requires proof of:
1) existence of duty 2) breach of duty 3) causation 4) damages 1) Does the dealer have a duty to deal properly, yes. 2) Did he breach that duty? yes 3) Did his breach of duty cause you harm. This is not as clear cut based on the circumstances and you can certainly make the argument either way. 4)Was their damage? yea $1800. ... So think you should sue if feel so deprived. I think you are being irrational because poker is a game of risks. Unlike other games you can make all the right moves and still lose, this is an example of that. The dealer gave you a bad beat of sorts. Do you also not tip when a dealer burns and turns a card that lets your opponents draw get there? Cause its really the same thing.
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#9
11-28-2007, 06:14 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
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. As a professional poker player, [/ QUOTE ] As a pro, you know it cuts both ways. If the mistake had gone the other way, would you decide to tip off the $1800 by tipping double for 25 weeks? As a pro, you should be paying attention to the dealer. Stop him before he burns and turns. As a professional poker player, I guess the [Enter] key is foreign to you.
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#10
11-28-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)
This is childish, and are just trying to place blame for your loss. Yes the dealer made a mistake, but it made no difference at all in the situation, if you are a 'professional' as you claim. You'll be in that situation many times (not the mistakingly turned card) and have a chance at that expectation many times, and you should win it more than you should lose it...poker sounds like it isn't right for you.
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