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Old 10-23-2007, 12:39 AM
westhoff westhoff is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

I smoked from age 16-22. 1-1.5 packs a day. Never had any intention of quitting, thought I was addicted forever. Anyone thinking cigarettes are not extremely addictive doesn't know what it's like. Then I got really sick and just stayed in bed for two weeks. (Probably shouldv'e gone to the hospital) When I got better I definitely wanted to smoke because I liked it, but I figured I had gone two weeks without smoking so I didn't need to. I haven't had one in almost two years now! I still have no idea how I did it. The disappointment it would cause my family and friends if I started again was the major factor in me not starting again. Good luck to anyone trying to quit!
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:48 AM
Taso Taso is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

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I believe in communicating with people without sounding like a condescending douchebag who is unable to interact with people unless on an internet forum.

But to answer your question, I also believe in Friday.

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Man, you must have been a penis 20 times this year and got addicted to it.

Having one pack of cigarettes a year does not make you addicted. Getting a cigarette buzz doesn't make you addicted. Since you've never been addicted to smoking you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to quiting. Saying it's just a matter of will power is perhaps the most condenscending douchebaggery I've seen here.

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Okay. Do you want to continue trying to make up your small penis? Or can we start communicating like mature adults yet?

If its the latter, great. What "makes" an individual addicted to cigarettes then? (Now here is where you can communicate intelligently, and instead of acting like a jerk because I don't know something that you do, you can instead help me to understand.)
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:03 AM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

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I believe in communicating with people without sounding like a condescending douchebag who is unable to interact with people unless on an internet forum.

But to answer your question, I also believe in Friday.

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Man, you must have been a penis 20 times this year and got addicted to it.

Having one pack of cigarettes a year does not make you addicted. Getting a cigarette buzz doesn't make you addicted. Since you've never been addicted to smoking you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to quiting. Saying it's just a matter of will power is perhaps the most condenscending douchebaggery I've seen here.

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Okay. Do you want to continue trying to make up your small penis? Or can we start communicating like mature adults yet?

If its the latter, great. What "makes" an individual addicted to cigarettes then? (Now here is where you can communicate intelligently, and instead of acting like a jerk because I don't know something that you do, you can instead help me to understand.)

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lol. Yea, you've been really open to someone disagreeing with you so far haven't you? I think you are the one who only deals with people on the internets and have refined the classic "attack as defense" to a hair trigger.

Did I hurt your feeling calling you stupid for not believing in addiction? You admit to not knowing what it means to be addicted to smoking yet that didn't stop you from making a silly remark about it. That's pretty stupid. Do you think you are the only one with enough will power to give up your massive 1 smoke every 2 week habit? Do you think everyone else who can't stop smoking is weak? I suppose all fatties are just lazy too?
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:31 AM
nuSFwck nuSFwck is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

Taso,

You not believing in addiction is pretty silly. Can you explain further why you think addiction is a farce?
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:52 PM
Taso Taso is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

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I believe in communicating with people without sounding like a condescending douchebag who is unable to interact with people unless on an internet forum.

But to answer your question, I also believe in Friday.

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Man, you must have been a penis 20 times this year and got addicted to it.

Having one pack of cigarettes a year does not make you addicted. Getting a cigarette buzz doesn't make you addicted. Since you've never been addicted to smoking you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to quiting. Saying it's just a matter of will power is perhaps the most condenscending douchebaggery I've seen here.

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Okay. Do you want to continue trying to make up your small penis? Or can we start communicating like mature adults yet?

If its the latter, great. What "makes" an individual addicted to cigarettes then? (Now here is where you can communicate intelligently, and instead of acting like a jerk because I don't know something that you do, you can instead help me to understand.)

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lol. Yea, you've been really open to someone disagreeing with you so far haven't you? I think you are the one who only deals with people on the internets and have refined the classic "attack as defense" to a hair trigger.

Did I hurt your feeling calling you stupid for not believing in addiction? You admit to not knowing what it means to be addicted to smoking yet that didn't stop you from making a silly remark about it. That's pretty stupid. Do you think you are the only one with enough will power to give up your massive 1 smoke every 2 week habit? Do you think everyone else who can't stop smoking is weak? I suppose all fatties are just lazy too?

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I don't recall admitting that. I believed I asked you to give your definition of what constitutes being addicted to smoking. I said I don't know what you do - what you know isn't neccesarily correct. (You have yet to state what you know, so I guess we'll never find out.)

And no, you didn't 'hurt my feelings'. I've been finding more and more that 2+2 posters are learning to communicate like everyone else who isn't on a computer all day. Everytime I run into someone who isn't on that level yet, and instead resorts to insulting a poster, I get annoyed.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:06 PM
Taso Taso is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

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Taso,

You not believing in addiction is pretty silly. Can you explain further why you think addiction is a farce?

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What I meant by "I don't really believe in addiction...its all will power" or whatever I said, was that I don't buy the whole "I can't quit, I'm addicted" argument. Thousands of people quit smoking. Many do it cold turkey too. Are they just really really lucky? No, they had the will power.

'are fat people just lazy' Most fat people are lazy (including me) Some have health conditions (thyroid problems, diabetes, whatever) and theres nothing they can do about it (I assume, I don't know much about this) and obviously I'm not talking about them.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

My old man has this theory that the amount of nicotine in cigarettes has steadily increased over the years to keep people hooked. I wonder if there's anything to that.

As for the willpower stuff, I tend to find that comes from younger people. Hell I know when I was in my teens and maybe early 20s that I thought that people with addictions were just weak-willed. Now I understand that there's a lot more to it than that, and some forces are more powerful than we are.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

Arguing with people about addiction who have never felt withdrawal from a substance is retarded. It's something that can't be explained.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

I was smoking a pack a day up to about 2 weeks when I started using the patch. I am pretty amazed at how well I was able to adapt to not constantly smoking. I am still cheating and smoking here and there and I can honestly say I have smoked almost a little over a pack in 2 weeks. In my view that is pretty good, I just hate taking the patch off, that [censored] is worse than a bandaid.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:01 AM
David H David H is offline
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Default Re: My experiences with cigerette smoking

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My old man has this theory that the amount of nicotine in cigarettes has steadily increased over the years to keep people hooked. I wonder if there's anything to that.

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Wouldn't that cause people to smoke less?
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