overbet wtf

ata · #1 10-10-2007, 02:49 AM

Villain is 21/16/3. My image is pretty similar.

UTG: $1,600.40
CO: $394
BTN: $318.63
SB: $788
Hero (BB): $400

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $16, 2 folds, SB calls $14, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($48) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($48) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35, SB folds

River: ($118) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $125

Who's calling river? Does he have KQss every time?

ogdundar · #2 10-10-2007, 02:56 AM

I think he would bet a strong draw like KQss on the flop, but without no reads it's tough to know here. But a flush is def a big part of his range, can't see any other made hands that we beat taking this line. Looks like a draw who wants to draw cheaply in a multiway pot. What hands play this passively yet bluff this river? I fold.

geo8o2 · #3 10-10-2007, 02:56 AM

he c-bets a flush draw there almost everytime. i think i call.

geo8o2 · #4 10-10-2007, 02:57 AM

espescially a hand like QKs. he bets, and then goes all-in over the top with that many outs.

ipokeder · #5 10-10-2007, 03:05 AM

fold

fees · #6 10-10-2007, 03:43 AM

Anyone else b/f?

wheelz · #7 10-10-2007, 05:38 AM

[censored] yes, i would check this river approximately 0% of the time. i still can't figure out why you didn't bet?

homeboy604 · #8 10-10-2007, 05:55 AM

bet flop.

ata · #9 10-10-2007, 12:08 PM

I should have asked this: what hand other than 2 spades is he calling the turn with that he's not just checking behind on that river? I don't see him making a value overbet without the flush there on the river.

smittyuiop · #10 10-10-2007, 07:20 PM

Looks like a fold. He's not value betting for over the pot with worse, so it would have to be a bluff, but I doubt he has air because he probably bets the flop and definitely folds the turn with air. A set or AQ raises the turn. QT probably checks behind or bets less. I don't think he necessarily has to always bet the flop with flush draw, especially with an Ace on board which could cause him to get raised. Turn call and river overbet really make sense for a flush given you probably have to be strong to bet into that board. I'd say most likely flush or maybe something like KQ turned into bluff, maybe KJ but doubt he bets that much.