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Old 10-23-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

usually you just lose 3 or 4 times, BUT 5 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! $$#@#$^#%&&
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

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AA gets killed alot on jokerstars, in fact all the big pairs get taken down like half the time by someone calling with a smaller pair making a set. Ive lost AA like 7 of my last 10 times ive had it. Lost AA to 44 all in 3 straight times...lost AA to QQ, I made a set and he gutshot a straigh on the river. Last night I got AA in first position and hoped someone would raise but no one did. The flop came T34, I just bet a little guy called etc....he flipped over TT,had made a set on the flop on me. To tell you the truth AA all in against any pocket pair is a little over a coin flip. I kept track of 88 times I had AA all in against only 22-kk and I won 47 times, thats 54%, I could have kept track of 880 and it would have been similar results. Oh yeah my last time I had AA it was like 3 hands into a MTT blinds were 20 I raised to 180 and one guy called....flop came QJK and I knew I was screwed but I <u>pushed all in hoping the guy was on a draw and would give up</u> but he clown turned over J2 and rivered the 9 to knock me out.
Ive got a theory on why the ambush AA so much and KK and QQ. How much money do you think they make in a 24 hour day by popping big pairs in cash games. You know you have 145.00 in a cash game and get AA, you raise up 25.00 and get called by 88 flop comes J83 and you lose all your chips and jokerstars picks up 3 or 4 bucks or whatever extra rake now do that times two or three or four thousand times a day 365 days a year and thats alot of motivation but I feel your pain. Its statistically impossible for the best hand to lose as often as it does all in preflop, there is obviously some nefarious going on at stars.

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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lol. I love these guys.

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How do you not bold the rest of that sentence???

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Oh Jaysus!! looooool!!

though I'll assume he meant to say J10.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

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"To tell you the truth AA all in against any pocket pair is a little over a coin flip."

These threads never disappoint.

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you either win or you dont 50/50 imo.

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Old 10-23-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

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AA gets killed alot on jokerstars, in fact all the big pairs get taken down like half the time by someone calling with a smaller pair making a set. Ive lost AA like 7 of my last 10 times ive had it. Lost AA to 44 all in 3 straight times...lost AA to QQ, I made a set and he gutshot a straigh on the river. Last night I got AA in first position and hoped someone would raise but no one did. The flop came T34, I just bet a little guy called etc....he flipped over TT,had made a set on the flop on me. To tell you the truth AA all in against any pocket pair is a little over a coin flip. I kept track of 88 times I had AA all in against only 22-kk and I won 47 times, thats 54%, I could have kept track of 880 and it would have been similar results. Oh yeah my last time I had AA it was like 3 hands into a MTT blinds were 20 I raised to 180 and one guy called....flop came QJK and I knew I was screwed but I <u>pushed all in hoping the guy was on a draw and would give up</u> but he clown turned over J2 and rivered the 9 to knock me out.
Ive got a theory on why the ambush AA so much and KK and QQ. How much money do you think they make in a 24 hour day by popping big pairs in cash games. You know you have 145.00 in a cash game and get AA, you raise up 25.00 and get called by 88 flop comes J83 and you lose all your chips and jokerstars picks up 3 or 4 bucks or whatever extra rake now do that times two or three or four thousand times a day 365 days a year and thats alot of motivation but I feel your pain. Its statistically impossible for the best hand to lose as often as it does all in preflop, there is obviously some nefarious going on at stars.

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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lol. I love these guys.

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How do you not bold the rest of that sentence???

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QFT
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

AA alone has won me about half my bankroll, please can you stop hating on it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

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Its statistically impossible for the best hand to lose as often as it does all in preflop, there is obviously some nefarious going on at stars.

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You are right, and it's statistically impossible, but no, nothing nefarious going on on Stars. It's simply you can't count or you are lying.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

I just got popped again with AA all in. The guy in front of me pushed all in with AsQd and I was staring at AA and excited, I thought surely I got a good chance to get this one and double up and take a big lead. Well Ill just tell you this.....the last 4 cards that came out were diamonds and I didnt have a diamond....from 3500 to 635 and crippled with AA again all in preflop. I bubbled a few hands later on an all in with 77. Can you email pokerstars and ask them to give you hand history of like last 20 times you had AA all in and lost?.....What a joke....someone needs to complain.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:05 PM
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No lucky lloyd I said J2 the guy called me 3 hands in with J2o after I raised to 180, it wasnt JT. I messed up in my earlier post the flop came QkT and he had J2 and rivered the 9 for a straight.......
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Is it normal to lose with AA this much at Stars?

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I just got popped again with AA all in. The guy in front of me pushed all in with AsQd and I was staring at AA and excited, I thought surely I got a good chance to get this one and double up and take a big lead. Well Ill just tell you this.....the last 4 cards that came out were diamonds and I didnt have a diamond....from 3500 to 635 and crippled with AA again all in preflop. I bubbled a few hands later on an all in with 77. Can you email pokerstars and ask them to give you hand history of like last 20 times you had AA all in and lost?.....What a joke....someone needs to complain.

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Your results are as follows:

Hand# Date H/C Pot Win
12126625732 9/18/2007 KdKh Y
12127391443 9/18/2007 AdAc Y
12131800438 9/18/2007 KhKc Y
12131974373 9/18/2007 KdKs Y
12144926100 9/19/2007 KsKh Y
12145594546 9/19/2007 KsKc Y
12146985703 9/19/2007 AdAh Y
12147455485 9/19/2007 KhKc Y
12149618958 9/19/2007 KdKc Y
12149969631 9/19/2007 KsKc Y
12150394830 9/19/2007 AsAh Y
12156845225 9/19/2007 KsKc
12158026099 9/19/2007 AsAc Y
12158415714 9/19/2007 AsAd Y
12158548741 9/19/2007 KdKc Y
12159297287 9/20/2007 AcAd Y
12159776431 9/20/2007 KhKc Y
12160325816 9/20/2007 AsAh Y
12160333938 9/20/2007 KdKc Y
12165154712 9/20/2007 AcAs Y
12165280644 9/20/2007 AsAc Y
12165868450 9/20/2007 KhKc Y
12167467775 9/20/2007 KdKc
12168643766 9/20/2007 KdKh Y
12168781040 9/20/2007 KsKh Y
12169266196 9/20/2007 KsKh Y
12169959090 9/20/2007 AdAh Y
12169970174 9/20/2007 AdAh Y
12175813399 9/20/2007 KhKs Y
12177186695 9/20/2007 KcKs
12177485783 9/20/2007 AdAc Y
12177747897 9/21/2007 KcKd
12177896229 9/21/2007 AhAc Y
12178276637 9/21/2007 KdKs
12178496576 9/21/2007 AsAh Y
12179403471 9/21/2007 AsAd Y
12179644170 9/21/2007 KdKh Y
12179743976 9/21/2007 AsAc Y
12179748688 9/21/2007 KhKd Y
12179766405 9/21/2007 KcKh
12179790029 9/21/2007 KdKh
12179894812 9/21/2007 KdKh Y
12180018189 9/21/2007 AsAh Y
12180269414 9/21/2007 KsKh Y
12180572078 9/21/2007 AdAc Y
12194940467 9/21/2007 AsAc Y
12194988970 9/21/2007 AcAd Y
12213970326 9/22/2007 KcKd Y
12214125134 9/22/2007 KdKc Y
12214789422 9/22/2007 KdKs Y
12233549880 9/23/2007 KsKh Y
12233550020 9/23/2007 AdAc Y
12233785319 9/23/2007 AsAc Y
12233990927 9/23/2007 KhKs Y
12234232911 9/23/2007 KdKc Y
12240760543 9/24/2007 AdAs Y
12242300504 9/24/2007 KhKc Y
12242710876 9/24/2007 AcAd Y
12243098353 9/24/2007 KsKh Y
12243114473 9/24/2007 KsKc Y
12245472429 9/24/2007 AcAh Y
12251821956 9/24/2007 AsAd Y
12259945694 9/25/2007 AcAs Y
12260055631 9/25/2007 AhAs
12260494264 9/25/2007 AcAs Y
12260619030 9/25/2007 KhKd Y
12260722699 9/25/2007 KhKs Y
12260887790 9/25/2007 KsKh Y
12261473580 9/25/2007 AcAh Y
12261959776 9/25/2007 KsKh Y
12262457291 9/25/2007 KhKs Y
12263091071 9/25/2007 AsAc Y
12265486933 9/25/2007 KsKh Y
12271426970 9/25/2007 KcKs Y
12280067398 9/26/2007 KdKh Y
12280414481 9/26/2007 KhKs Y
12280968358 9/26/2007 KhKs Y
12281381514 9/26/2007 KsKc
12283110380 9/26/2007 AcAs Y
12283250487 9/26/2007 AhAd Y
12283371016 9/26/2007 KdKh Y
12283382876 9/26/2007 KsKd Y
12291331392 9/26/2007 KdKs Y
12291900229 9/26/2007 KdKh Y
12298331749 9/27/2007 KcKs Y
12298395769 9/27/2007 AhAd Y
12303872704 9/27/2007 KsKh Y
12310045138 9/27/2007 KsKh Y
12310461233 9/27/2007 AcAh Y
12310719578 9/27/2007 AdAs Y
12311571730 9/28/2007 KdKc Y
12311770889 9/28/2007 AdAs Y
12312009604 9/28/2007 KhKs Y
12317061864 9/28/2007 KcKs Y
12318231362 9/28/2007 KhKd Y
12319026902 9/28/2007 KcKs Y
12319631099 9/28/2007 KsKh Y
12320700547 9/28/2007 KsKh Y
12320735578 9/28/2007 AdAs Y
12321256350 9/28/2007 KdKh
12327425306 9/28/2007 KsKh Y
12327762623 9/28/2007 AcAs Y
12328739892 9/28/2007 AhAc Y
12328811152 9/28/2007 KsKd
12341781258 9/29/2007 KsKd Y
12346258078 9/29/2007 AcAd Y
12346836917 9/29/2007 AdAs Y
12347161461 9/29/2007 AsAh Y
12347686008 9/29/2007 AsAd Y
12348000124 9/29/2007 KdKh Y
12348076742 9/29/2007 KdKs Y
12366827341 9/30/2007 KsKh Y
12374077668 10/1/2007 KhKd Y
12374308815 10/1/2007 AcAh Y
12374579249 10/1/2007 AhAs Y
12375766316 10/1/2007 AhAs Y
12377163807 10/1/2007 KcKd Y
12385192318 10/1/2007 AcAh Y
12386469560 10/1/2007 AcAd
12386604758 10/1/2007 KsKc
12393538842 10/2/2007 AsAh Y
12393598424 10/2/2007 AdAh Y
12398118617 10/2/2007 KsKc
12399017061 10/2/2007 KdKh Y
12403770132 10/2/2007 KdKc
12404009359 10/2/2007 KhKs
12412180166 10/3/2007 KcKs Y
12412330778 10/3/2007 KhKs
12412533666 10/3/2007 KdKc Y
12412789883 10/3/2007 KdKc Y
12413216551 10/3/2007 KsKd
12413261579 10/3/2007 AdAc Y
12423180801 10/3/2007 AdAs Y
12424721167 10/3/2007 KsKc Y
12432372989 10/4/2007 KhKd Y
12432883536 10/4/2007 KdKs Y
12434743410 10/4/2007 KhKs Y
12435662785 10/4/2007 KdKc Y
12441325625 10/4/2007 KdKc Y
12442308705 10/4/2007 AhAs Y
12442586487 10/4/2007 AhAs
12499334649 10/7/2007 AhAs
12506193141 10/8/2007 AcAd Y
12506397892 10/8/2007 KdKs Y
12506815425 10/8/2007 AcAh
12507799893 10/8/2007 AdAc Y
12509720260 10/8/2007 KhKc
12518818893 10/8/2007 AdAc Y
12519503020 10/8/2007 KdKs
12526260448 10/9/2007 KcKh
12526706365 10/9/2007 AdAs Y
12537553031 10/9/2007 AhAc Y
12546243125 10/10/2007 AcAd Y
12546620906 10/10/2007 KhKd
12546684945 10/10/2007 AhAs
12546716919 10/10/2007 KhKc Y
12547267147 10/10/2007 KcKh Y
12556326726 10/10/2007 AhAs Y
12556851208 10/10/2007 AhAd Y
12557315476 10/10/2007 AsAh Y
12563867337 10/11/2007 AcAs Y
12564019972 10/11/2007 AdAs Y
12564042665 10/11/2007 AsAc Y
12630996960 10/14/2007 KsKc
12631572186 10/14/2007 AhAc Y
12632488648 10/14/2007 AhAc Y
12632830694 10/14/2007 KcKs Y
12632897647 10/14/2007 KcKh Y
12641072726 10/15/2007 KcKd Y
12641379958 10/15/2007 KcKd Y
12642529201 10/15/2007 AhAd Y
12642795274 10/15/2007 AcAh Y
12643349117 10/15/2007 KhKs Y
12651040099 10/15/2007 AdAc Y
12652340648 10/15/2007 KsKh
12653160701 10/15/2007 KcKd Y
12662710423 10/16/2007 KhKs Y
12663063746 10/16/2007 AcAs Y
12670620740 10/16/2007 AsAc Y
12678565768 10/17/2007 AcAs Y
12678644215 10/17/2007 KcKs Y
12679004510 10/17/2007 KdKh Y
12679697467 10/17/2007 KsKc Y
12679757254 10/17/2007 KhKc Y
12679779649 10/17/2007 KhKs Y
12680277483 10/17/2007 AsAc Y
12680310355 10/17/2007 KsKh Y
12680475039 10/17/2007 KhKd Y
12680488586 10/17/2007 KsKc Y
12680520040 10/17/2007 KcKh Y
12680551041 10/17/2007 KsKd Y
12680644998 10/17/2007 AcAs Y
12689894966 10/17/2007 KcKd Y
12690032988 10/17/2007 KsKh Y
12690569217 10/17/2007 KsKd Y
12691461572 10/17/2007 KsKd Y
12691805752 10/17/2007 KdKh Y
12691910292 10/17/2007 AcAs Y
12697965434 10/18/2007 KcKd Y
12698069155 10/18/2007 KsKc Y
12698685045 10/18/2007 KhKc
12698724805 10/18/2007 KsKh Y
12699258697 10/18/2007 AdAh Y
12699264269 10/18/2007 KcKs Y
12701068029 10/18/2007 AsAd Y
Total å = 205 176 (85.9%)
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:11 PM
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I dont know where you got those results but there not mine, they look good though, nice computer work there.
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