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Old 10-04-2007, 02:01 PM
aka_bebel aka_bebel is offline
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Default 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

I'm in the SB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (50$) (6 handed)
UTG(71$) calls 0.5 ,MP(20$) calls 0.5 ,BTN folds.

<font color="red">HERO raises to 3$ </font> , UTG calls , MP folds,BB folds

FLOP ($7.0): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> HERO bets 5$</font> ,UTG raises to 11$, <font color="red"> HERO ?? </font>

I've raised a few pots at the table but nothing out of line
UTG was a bit weak,liked to limp and see flops (30/10/1)
but this was my first big pot against him.
FLOP is very very bad so what is my plan ?
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

I'd call and bet a non-diamond turn.

If he still calls, I'm checking behind the river.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

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I'd call and bet a non-diamond turn.

If he still calls, I'm checking behind the river.

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If we call the pot will be huge on the TURN(7+22=29) and my stack will be ~36 so I think I have to decide now
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

He's a 1 aggression, and he has position. I think I have to find a fold here because he could have a made hand, a draw, or could bluff you with position. He also called on the flop, rather than re-raise, so that screams low pocket pair, or suited cards. Him waking up post flop, with an aggression factor that low is very telling.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

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He's a 1 aggression, and he has position. I think I have to find a fold here because he could have a made hand, a draw, or could bluff you with position. He also called on the flop, rather than re-raise, so that screams low pocket pair, or suited cards. Him waking up post flop, with an aggression factor that low is very telling.

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AF of 1 doesn't mean he won't do dumb things with TT or KdQx..
Isn't folding a bit weak?
I get minraised a lot of time by donks on flops and they are not all very aggro
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

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I'd call and bet a non-diamond turn.

If he still calls, I'm checking behind the river.

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check the title, oop, cant check behind
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

call flop, shove turn if no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A, or 5 peels
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

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call flop, shove turn if no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A, or 5 peels

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my sentiments. on this board, this dumb raise is rarely a flopped flush. set raises more, weak flush prob raises more or calls as does big flush. i think getting in on safe turn gets you the highest equity.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

I think I call the flop and shove a non-diamond turn.

I would also be warry of an ace in case he has AdXx or a hand like 55
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: QQ oop and a bad flop.

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call flop, shove turn if no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A, or 5 peels

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my sentiments. on this board, this dumb raise is rarely a flopped flush. set raises more, weak flush prob raises more or calls as does big flush. i think getting in on safe turn gets you the highest equity.

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I thought he had some med pair or Adx and because a lot of turn cards are bad I pushed

He had Ah5h
I think calling and pushing a safe turn would have been better
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