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20yrs+ 4 1.21%
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:01 PM
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Well done sir!

More than one line, several paragraphs in fact, along with a topical link and extract.

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:04 PM
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Conclusion: if you believed the official story before, your opinion won't change. If you believed the Loose Change/Alex Jones story before, you're still an idiot.

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FYP

Note: This is really getting tiresome that people buy into this bs. It just proves how stupid a large percentage of the population is.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

I used to think it was an inside job. But there are so many sites out there showing that there were not bombs in the building, there was no missle that hit the pentagon, WTC7 burned for like 7 hrs before it fell, etc. But sites like infowars.com still push fabrications.

Now do I think key people let it happen? Yes.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:16 PM
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Anyone who disagrees with any part of the Bush administration's story are called "conspiracy theorists."

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What would you have prefered the show to have called these people?
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

I saw that this show was going to be on and was interested in at least watching. After a half hour, I shut it off, for the very reasons that you gave. The whole thing was so slanted that it was clear what the show was trying to do. Myself, I don't think there was any conspiracy. If the Neo-cons wanted to push their agenda, they didn't need something as large as 9/11 to do it. They could have easily done it by destroying something less valuable that would have killed less people.

How we reacted AFTER 9/11 is a whole different story.
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

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Anyone who disagrees with any part of the Bush administration's story are called "conspiracy theorists."

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What would you have prefered the show to have called these people?

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Who are "these people"? Do you know what a conspiracy theory is? Not believing what the government tells you is not a conspiracy theory.

The media likes to call people conspiracy theorists in order to convince the viewer that the person is crazy, completely regardless of whether or not they actually believe in any conspiracy.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

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http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

I used to think it was an inside job. But there are so many sites out there showing that there were not bombs in the building, there was no missle that hit the pentagon, WTC7 burned for like 7 hrs before it fell, etc. But sites like infowars.com still push fabrications.

Now do I think key people let it happen? Yes.

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regarding the bold text I am somewhat confused.

regarding no bombs in building, no missile, WTC7 burning for 7 hours. I would love to see all the sites and data for this.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:53 AM
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:10 AM
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CBS- 9/11 chair: Attack was preventable

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"I don't think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile," said national security adviser Condoleeza Rice on May 16, 2002.

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lol?

Not to mention that these buildings were designed to take the impact of a jumbo jet crashing into it.

Just the sheer fact that no high rise building has ever fallen due to fire in the history of high rise buildings besides on 9/11.

Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to weaken the steel to a point of collapse since structural steel has to be able to handle 500-600% its load.

It is utterly impossible for a "gravitational collapse" to proceed so destructively through a path of such great resistance in anywhere near free-fall times.
http://www.911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

There is video where you can see the structure bowing before it falls. NYPD audio saying that the building is leaning and about to fall. WTC7's south side was severely damaged and burning for seven hours. I don't understand how you do not understand my comment. Key people in the government did not put bombs in the building, fly remote airplanes, bomb WTC7.

But I do believe there are certain people that needed this to happen. The Project For a New American Century think tank with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and other key people in the administration.. I find it hard to be a coincidence imo when they already wanted to invade Iraq years before and said a catastrophic event would speed up their objectives. Now the main objective I am not sure of. I do not know if it's simply greed, illuminati objectives, or Israel behind the curtains pulling the strings.
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