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KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
Ok, so ive been at the table for an hour running very well, raising alot preflop and betting and hitting alot of flops.
So now I get KK utg and raise to 40 (standard) and its folded to SB who calls, then BB makes it 140, I call and SB folds. BB has a stack of 6000 and is laggish. He also made a min-raise flopbluff against me in a raised pot a couple of orbits ago and then showed. Flop(340) 7-8-5r BB bets 350 and I call. Turn(1040) 5 BB bets 1000, I call. River(3040) Q BB bets 2000, I call. What irritates me with this hand is that I just call all the way but at the same time I cant find a good spot for a raise either. Can you? If you fold the river would your decision change if the river brought a low card? |
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
What range of hands will laggy BB reraise with here? Probably not 69, maybe medium to high pair or two big cards?
If I'm villian, I find it easy to put you on an overpair on the flop call, 95% sure after the turn call. Do I think I can blast you off the hand with a bluff? Do I still bet the turn if it made me a boat? If I know the table sees me as a LAG, I don't think I can push the overpair off, and I do continue betting 77 or 88 when I boat up on the turn against a perceived overpair. |
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
With these stack I'd much prefer to reraise preflop. As it is, I'm probably folding the turn.
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
How laggish is he? Would he reraise TT preflop? Would he put you all in with JJ+ if you raise the turn? If he would, you have your answer.
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
I don't think you want to be just calling down with stacks this deep. The queen falling on the river is the pefect example of why;
unless he is on a stone cold bluff, he can really only have aces, or trip queens, both of which you loose to. I think jacks would have slown down on the turn. |
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
WOW. You paid off 335BB with crappy one pair hand... I think folding the turn is in order.
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
[ QUOTE ]
What range of hands will laggy BB reraise with here? Probably not 69, maybe medium to high pair or two big cards? If I'm villian, I find it easy to put you on an overpair on the flop call, 95% sure after the turn call. Do I think I can blast you off the hand with a bluff? Do I still bet the turn if it made me a boat? If I know the table sees me as a LAG, I don't think I can push the overpair off, and I do continue betting 77 or 88 when I boat up on the turn against a perceived overpair. [/ QUOTE ] this is the first time he has reraised me preflop. i dont know what range he could be doing this with, since I only been there for an hour and the player is unknown to me. He is not the kind of lag that reraises much preflop. Actually i think this is the first time ive seen him do it. |
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
I can't see how the turn is possibly a fold. The river is probably a fold, though.
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
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WOW. You paid off 335BB with crappy one pair hand... I think folding the turn is in order. [/ QUOTE ] Villain could be betting turn with overpair, bluff or monster. So you still think folding the turn is the right play? |
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Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..
Wait, you're saying he'll reraise preflop with pair lower than kings, then pot the flop, and then the turn, and not consider himself to be bluffing?
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