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Old 07-01-2007, 06:37 AM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

I guess he is more just your average donk than nit.

No reads other than PT. Villian is 30.4/4.2/2.11

I dont 3bet because his PFR is so low and I want to keep the pot small. His check behind on the flop made me a little suspicious of JJ. So I was thinking JJ/AK/AQ were his range.

What do you think about the river?

Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $60.95
BB: $27.40
UTG: $50.00
MP: $15.30
CO: $51.40
BTN: $62.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($4.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, BTN calls $2.50

River: ($9.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $21.00</font>, hero????

Pot Size: $20.50 ($1 Rake)
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:47 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

My spidey sense is tingling.

When a relatively aggressive opponent checks behind on a flop that is perfect for a cbet, I start to worry. Given his tight preflop range, and the board by the river there is not much you beat that would play like this. So fold river.

I guess an argument can be made for check-calling river, but it is hard to comment on this hand without being influenced by results.
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

Well I threw out that $2.5 bet expecting a reraise from an ace, and maybe a call from a crappy PP/checked behind QQ/KK. Even though that really wasn't in his range in my opinion. After he called I was really just lost. I thought I was value betting river.
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

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My spidey sense is tingling.

When a relatively aggressive opponent checks behind on a flop that is perfect for a cbet, I start to worry. Given his tight preflop range, and the board by the river there is not much you beat that would play like this. So fold river.

I guess an argument can be made for check-calling river, but it is hard to comment on this hand without being influenced by results.

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villain is not aggro
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:00 AM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

bet more on turn and check call river, If he called turn, i would be damn suspicious.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

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My spidey sense is tingling.

When a relatively aggressive opponent checks behind on a flop that is perfect for a cbet, I start to worry. Given his tight preflop range, and the board by the river there is not much you beat that would play like this. So fold river.

I guess an argument can be made for check-calling river, but it is hard to comment on this hand without being influenced by results.

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villain is not aggro

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2.11 - I would say that is 'normal' aggression. I would expect him to bet flop.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

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My spidey sense is tingling.

When a relatively aggressive opponent checks behind on a flop that is perfect for a cbet, I start to worry. Given his tight preflop range, and the board by the river there is not much you beat that would play like this. So fold river.

I guess an argument can be made for check-calling river, but it is hard to comment on this hand without being influenced by results.

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villain is not aggro

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2.11 - I would say that is 'normal' aggression. I would expect him to bet flop.

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I´m checking behind from time to time if i have missed the board and my af is way higher than that.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

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My spidey sense is tingling.

When a relatively aggressive opponent checks behind on a flop that is perfect for a cbet, I start to worry. Given his tight preflop range, and the board by the river there is not much you beat that would play like this. So fold river.

I guess an argument can be made for check-calling river, but it is hard to comment on this hand without being influenced by results.

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villain is not aggro

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2.11 - I would say that is 'normal' aggression. I would expect him to bet flop.

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I´m checking behind from time to time if i have missed the board and my af is way higher than that.

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Ok, whatever, you are just being a nit.
FWIW I think op played it fine if he folded river.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

Villian has an average AF. HOWEVER, I expect when someone with a 4.2 prf raises preflop and they have an average AF to bet the flop in position 95% of the time. He likes his hand PF, and he obviously doens't like many enough to raise. It is a decent spot to Cbet, especially against a call from a SB.

I did fold. But at the time it was a tough one. The more I think about it, the more it seems like a best case scenario would have been a split
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Nittish Villian takes an odd line

How reliable are your stats, i.e. how many hands did you have on him?
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