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Old 07-18-2007, 02:17 PM
admiralfluff admiralfluff is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

It's 4-handed. Please tell me you didn't notice that. Otherwise, you are very wrong.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:41 PM
freewheeler freewheeler is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

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Otherwise, you are very wrong.

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My thinking was based on HJ raise not CO. So I do agree with raising AJ from sb. HOWEVER, I'm not so sure it's as "standard" as most others on this forum. This hand does illustrate the merits of weak-tight play, as it would allow us to get away cheaply.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:06 PM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

dude, this is 4HANDED! UTG's raising range should be waaay bigger if he is adjusting properly.

pf is 100%standard

interesting hand though. I probably play it like OP til the river, then c/f if I think about it long enough, or c/c if I'm playing bad.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:32 PM
freewheeler freewheeler is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

Would it be poor to just call PF if raise come from UTG 5 handed? I don't think so. So how bad can it be to just call from one position closer? Gets back to that concept about how creating correct odds for yourself to draw by jamming early is bad. Not saying that you shouldn't 3bet AJ in this spot, you should, but this hand highlights why its maybe closer than ya think.
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: find a fold?

I play that hand the same in all streets, including the river call. I see that people doesn't like the river call, is that bad?
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:02 PM
Carmine Carmine is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

Guys this hand really bothers me. We're calling/calling/calling with all these tainted outs and at the same time doing nothing about the 3rd player. Yet we have a majority saying this is standard with only the river being a question mark.

Other than one of three K what cards are we hoping to fall?
I would really like to see more elaboration on what's going on and why we are proceeding in this manner.
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