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Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
The 3 main people in this hand from left to right are asian lady, crazy russian, and stripper/whore
Russian has like 300 to start the hand with the asian at 850-900 and stripper at about 1500 theres a pf raise and a bet and 2 calls on the flop of qj7 rainbow the turn is another q board: qqj7 rainbow asian lady bets 125 russian moves in for 198 total and the stripper calls the 198 Now the asian says Im all in which the stripper immediately calls with the monster know as q5 (the asian has q7 for the boat, and the russian has 3 pair with j7) The dealer immediatly burns and turns a river blank and is ready to push the entire pot to the asian when somebody says that the all in shouldnt have been allowed (which delights the stripper) The floor is called over and rules that the asian was not allowed to raise over the top of the russians all in. She would be allowe dto go all in on the river but the cards were exposed so obviolsy the stripper wouldnt call another 600 or so. What is the correct ruling? |
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
Ugh, what a mess. If I were running the game I'd let it stand, since it's clear the action on the river would have been the same.
I have a feeling the "correct" answer probably returns the extra bets, shuffles the river card back in, deals a new river, and cheats the Asian lady out of a well deserved $650. |
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
wow, that's gross. Like Aristocrats kind of gross. I'll just bump poco and call it good.
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
If I get it right asian lady was first to act and striper had to act just after.
Then she moved all in in the dark (on the river) and got called in the dark. 100% legal. |
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
Action offered and accepted?
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
Action offered and accepted is fair. Too late to decline Asian lady's all in after river has been dealt, and seeing Asian lady's hand.
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
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If I get it right asian lady was first to act and striper had to act just after. Then she moved all in in the dark (on the river) and got called in the dark. [/ QUOTE ] No she didn't. She tried to move all-in on the turn. You can't call a play "in the dark" for a future street when you haven't even acted on the current street. She has to call the current bet first (she could have folded). The fact that she said "all-in" is 100% clearly to be taken as current action, which isn't a legal play. The river is shuffled back into the deck and Asian lady, must call or fold. Then play proceeds. |
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
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If I get it right asian lady was first to act and striper had to act just after. Then she moved all in in the dark (on the river) and got called in the dark. [/ QUOTE ] Too bad they didn't explain it this way, I'm guessing. |
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
KITN for dealer for not running the game properly. Not sure about ruling though, where's RR when you need him
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Re: Taj floor decision 2/5 nl
In a lot of places a raise is possible if the previous raise was >= 1/2 of the first raise. Here russian raises 63 to 198 which is >= (125/2 = 62.5), and hence a raise should be allowed under these rules. Most dealers I've encountered cannot add/divide properly. But again, some places don't follow this 1/2 rule.
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