STTF SNG->cash thread - Page 198

cleinen · #**1971** 10-24-2007, 05:55 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($83.70)
Hero ($52)
MP ($58.45)
CO ($38.75)
Button ($75)
SB ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 3 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, CO raises to $7, Hero raises to $50,

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I'd like to know more about the villain. It can't be real bad, but calling could be better against some passive opponents.

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villain was 59/42 but only over 30 hands so meh. i think the fact that he only has 38 bucks on the table is telling.

Slim Pickens · #**1972** 10-24-2007, 06:05 PM

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UTG+1: 34/14/1.33 over 50 hands
SB: 38/2/1.43 over 50 hands
BB: no info

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $136.05
UTG+1: $82.35
CO: $59.05
Button: $225.10
SB: $52.95
BB: $95.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 4 players)
SB bets $12, BB calls, Hero raises to $30, UTG+1 raises to $48, SB folds, BB folds, Hero ???

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I hate spots like this. Passive players still baffle me. Cause often they still overplay TP and they love to slow play big hands when they shouldn't.

I still fold here with just one pair, but I'm amazed how often A9 vs fd is shown down here.

As for you play...purpose of the flop raise?

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I'm pretty sure SB has something like A9, 88, or something similar. Loose-passive players pot-donking draw-y flops isn't often the nuts. They prefer to slowplay those. They like to "protect" weak top pairs against AK, which is what everyone has when they raise preflop all the time for ever and ever. I have no problem getting his stack in on this flop and that's really my goal: get all-in HU with him on the flop.

BB has to have a draw or the nuts, and I can get away when SB calls and BB all of a sudden pushes from the middle. I'm willing to take the chance that a random NL100 player isn't sophisticated enough to shove a nut flush draw there.

The raise from UTG+1 totally took me by surprise.

Scuba Chuck · #**1973** 10-24-2007, 06:29 PM

Villain (GER) is 46/27/1.6 over 60ish hands. In retrospect, his turn AF factor is pretty high (4.5).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($53)
CO ($47.45)
Button ($37.40)
SB ($25.60)
BB ($25.70)
UTG ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, BB(GER) calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25 - minus rake) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB(GER) bets $2, Hero raises to $6.5. BB (GER) calls $4.5

Turn: ($17ish) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB(GER) bets $17.2 (All-In), Hero calls $17.20.

Edit: I had to fix all the pot size amounts, all messed up for some reason.

DevinLake · #**1974** 10-24-2007, 06:37 PM

I'd call because it's close and I love busting these guys.

Scuba Chuck · #**1975** 10-24-2007, 07:10 PM

Villain is 55/29/1.67 over 37 hands. He did start with a full stack.

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SB ($69.90)
BB ($96.15)
UTG ($38.75)
Hero ($43.50)
CO ($51.05)
Button ($62.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.5, 4 folds, UTG calls $5.50.

Flop: ($15.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $13, UTG raises to $31.25, Hero calls $18.25.

I hate this spot because donkeys always love to check-raise.

Scuba Chuck · #**1976** 10-24-2007, 07:14 PM

Villain is 58/4/0.43. I have 99 hands with him in my database, but I'm sure this hand took place far before the 75th hand.

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BB ($81.25)
UTG ($45.85)
MP ($49.25)
Hero ($74.15)
Button ($47.90)
SB ($28.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

DevinLake · #**1977** 10-24-2007, 07:16 PM

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Villain is 55/29/1.67 over 37 hands. He did start with a full stack.

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SB ($69.90)
BB ($96.15)
UTG ($38.75)
Hero ($43.50)
CO ($51.05)
Button ($62.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.5, 4 folds, UTG calls $5.50.

Flop: ($15.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $13, UTG raises to $31.25, Hero calls $18.25.

I hate this spot because donkeys always love to check-raise.

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Yep, donks like to c/r making if very difficult for you to call with worse hands.

I think if you bet, you have to call. I'll often check behind a flop like this though.

hesheatingup · #**1978** 10-24-2007, 07:16 PM

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Please only comment on PF ( i should have folded) if you are going to comment on other aspects of the hand as well

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BB ($100)
UTG ($215.30)
MP ($50.75)
Button ($98.05)
Hero ($107.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($13) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] b]Turn:[/b] ($13) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $8.5, UTG raises to $17, MP raises to $25.5, Hero ???

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So why do you guys have this thread? SSNL is pretty good these days, why not post there?

Scuba Chuck · #**1979** 10-24-2007, 07:17 PM

Villain had some really nitty numbers - at the time of this hand. I have written down in my notes he was 21/14. My database has 114 hands with him at 32/19/1.4. Forget the old stats, go with the first set.

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CO ($64.80)
Hero ($66)
SB ($57.70)
BB ($55.70)
UTG ($47.25)
MP ($21.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, CO calls $5.

Flop: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $7, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $14.75

DevinLake · #**1980** 10-24-2007, 07:17 PM

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Villain is 58/4/0.43. I have 99 hands with him in my database, but I'm sure this hand took place far before the 75th hand.

JcPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)9c

BB ($81.25)
UTG ($45.85)
MP ($49.25)
Hero ($74.15)
Button ($47.90)
SB ($28.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

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Looks fine.

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