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11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
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Re: weird donk
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[ QUOTE ] I think all of the hands in vma's range are possible but I also think he has 43 like 20 times for each time he has KQ. If you are not prepared to fold to a 3-bet I honestly cant see how this is a raise. If you think you can fold to a raise I like it a lot more and I think its fairly close [/ QUOTE ] sure, but all the 5x hands and the pp's are on at least an equal footing with 43s - and i'd say even more likely. Ax's hands are there too, discounted of course, maybe to 25-40%. and yes, i agree, i think you can confidently fold to a 3bet. [/ QUOTE ] please stop taking lines that involve folding JJ on a 52244 board in a big pot versus a retarded opponent. seriously 
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11-30-2007, 10:15 AM
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Re: weird donk
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please stop taking lines that involve folding JJ on a 52244 board in a big pot versus a retarded opponent. seriously [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, wtf! If he's retarded enough to bet-call A-hi or 33 I can't trust him (or myself) enough to raise fold. I just call.
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11-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Re: weird donk
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to those who say don't fold. if he 3-bets you, how often do you think you have him beat? [/ QUOTE ] it's not about what to do when 3bet, i'm saying you have "1" pair vs. a person who sucks at poker. You do not know the value of this persons hand. He might have trash, he might have a straight he might have a boat. When you have JJ on this board, and he bets, the only play is to call What to do when 3bet shouldn't even be a question you need to worry about.
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