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Re: weird donk
he could easily play 33-TT this way, with TT being somewhat less likely. basically, i more or less agree with vma's range, excluding JJ-QQ and adding a bunch of 5x hands like 65s, 75s.
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Re: weird donk
I think all of the hands in vma's range are possible but I also think he has 43 like 20 times for each time he has KQ.
If you are not prepared to fold to a 3-bet I honestly cant see how this is a raise. If you think you can fold to a raise I like it a lot more and I think its fairly close |
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Re: weird donk
btw, nina the new poker bob?
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Re: weird donk
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btw, nina the new poker bob? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: weird donk
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[ QUOTE ] btw, nina the new poker bob? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I think I get it, and I think it's a compliment. Pokerbob used to one of the most active 2+2ers when it came to posting hands just like you Nina. Also like you, Pokerbob's hands usually involved very close/debatable situations. IMO you and pokerbob are both outstanding hand posters. |
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Re: weird donk
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] btw, nina the new poker bob? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I think I get it, and I think it's a compliment. Pokerbob used to one of the most active 2+2ers when it came to posting hands just like you Nina. Also like you, Pokerbob's hands usually involved very close/debatable situations. IMO you and pokerbob are both outstanding hand posters. [/ QUOTE ] yeah |
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Re: weird donk
sweetjazz,
i understand that you want to discount all the 5x and pp hands because you don't know his tendencies and that's fine. but then you should discount any hand with a 4 for the exact same reason: lots of players would c/r it on the river instead of betting out. i believe 5x and pp's should be discounted somewhat more than 4x (based on the river action) but not substantially so. meanwhile, there are very few 4x type hands in his range given the pf and flop action. |
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Re: weird donk
we cant call a 3 bet and i dont think we can fold, i also dont think he ever calls a reraise here, he either folds or 3 bets so i dont see much merit to it, i think calling is really the only option here.
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Re: weird donk
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I think all of the hands in vma's range are possible but I also think he has 43 like 20 times for each time he has KQ. If you are not prepared to fold to a 3-bet I honestly cant see how this is a raise. If you think you can fold to a raise I like it a lot more and I think its fairly close [/ QUOTE ] sure, but all the 5x hands and the pp's are on at least an equal footing with 43s - and i'd say even more likely. Ax's hands are there too, discounted of course, maybe to 25-40%. and yes, i agree, i think you can confidently fold to a 3bet. |
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Re: weird donk
BTW, I've seen fish taking c/c c/c donk line with a monster a lot (in smaller stakes though). They love to stick around till the river.
I'd call, if I've been playing with him a good amount and I feel more comfortable with his ranges when he bets big streets I can raise/fold or raise/call. |
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