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Old 05-08-2007, 12:26 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

putting any dollars in this pot on the river is setting money to flame.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

"Fold to a bet."

good post. the weird thing about this hand is i was planning to definitely fold to a bet on the river if bb bet and im 100% sure sb was calling the river if bb bet. and i wouldve been wrong and sb wouldve been right and i know for a fact that im really good poker and sb is not.

what's wrong with this picture?
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

what reason did he have to think you were raising the turn?
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

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what reason did he have to think you were raising the turn?

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He didn't, he just didn't want to drive Mike out with a raise. Once the raise came in, he could wake up with his monster without fearing that he wasn't greedy enough.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

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"Fold to a bet."

good post. the weird thing about this hand is i was planning to definitely fold to a bet on the river if bb bet and im 100% sure sb was calling the river if bb bet. and i wouldve been wrong and sb wouldve been right and i know for a fact that im really good poker and sb is not.

what's wrong with this picture?

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The fact that the Lobster doesn't get any of the pot. What's not wrong with it is:

1. SB's call closes the action with only 1 opponent.
2. It's turned into a situation where the bad player's decisions are correct.


I'm hoping to hear in the follow-up that BB was bluffing and SB called with a hand slightly better than yours (like K9o with a better kicker). That would be poetic poker justice.

There's a good argument that you should have called if SB bet and BB folded.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:22 AM
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"i wouldve been wrong and sb wouldve been right and i know for a fact that im really good poker and sb is not. what's wrong with this picture?"

"Suppose two suited cards flop and there is a bet from an early position. A strong player, who thinks his opponent is probably on a flush draw (since this player likes to check-raise a lot when he has a legitimate hand), may now rasie with bottom pair and then bet on fourth street. His opponent may realize this and try to check-raise with a flush draw on the turn. The initial raiser now may comprehend this possibility and call his opponent down. When the hand is over, assuming that the flush card does not come, his calls will look fantastic to some opponents, if he actually is against a flush draw. Conversely, if it turns out that the first bettor really has hand, the calls will look like a 'sucker play'."
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

so was it AA and JTs, mike?
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:39 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

there's no cat and mouse of that sort go on with players who cant think past level 1.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:41 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

you got one of the hands right...
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: up against the dreaded call-reraise

last guess: does old man bob have qq?

i agree w/ everyone else either way, the other guy has the nuts...
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